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Wellness Wednesday for January 22, 2025

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

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Lots of low net carb, high fiber veggies. It did a good job of keeping me regular, which was an issue at times on the diet. Saturated fat>>Monounsaturated fat>>polyunsaturated fat, especially when it comes to ketone production. Its pretty much the opposite advice you'd hear on any other diet, but I truly felt better eating 1/2 to 2/3 pounds of bacon plus broccoli than things like chicken thighs or lean beef cuts. The fattier the better.

I also ended up transitioning to a 5 on 2 off cyclical keto diet for a couple years. Felt great for the majority of time and was the lowest weight I had been in 15 years. Unfortunately, over time I ended up undereating due to lack of hunger and started to not feel well, ending the experiment.

I did gain a lot of the weight I lost over the following year.

Unfortunately, over time I ended up undereating due to lack of hunger and started to not feel well, ending the experiment.

Yes, I've been there before too. Like your advice I'm really trying to maximise healthy vegetables within the guidelines (spinach, broccoli, green beans (for cellulose). Daily multivitamins, extra potassium through 'light salt' etc. I've realised I need to stay away from diet soda which just feels like a micronutrient drain after the fact.

I did gain a lot of the weight I lost over the following year.

And this is the real crux. How to keep it off? I put most of it on during covid so I'm hoping I will re-engage with my more active pre-covid lifestyle. I'll also make an effort to work on reducing sugar intake and portion sizes. But many people have been where I'm going without success..

Yes, I've been there before too. Like your advice I'm really trying to maximise healthy vegetables within the guidelines (spinach, broccoli, green beans (for cellulose). Daily multivitamins, extra potassium through 'light salt' etc. I've realised I need to stay away from diet soda which just feels like a micronutrient drain after the fact. That is a good call, as certain micronutrients are generally absent on a ketogenic diet. Especially flavonoids which seem to activate a lot of antioxidant and cell protecting mechanisms like NRF2, which is part of the phase II detoxification pathway. Meat products don't have those compounds. One supplement that I have had good effects from is Cyandin-3-Glucoside (C3G), which actually keeps/restores glucose and lipid metabolism It also is an MAO-B inhibitor, so it provides a light amount of stimulation due to inhibiting the rate of breakdown of dopamine.

I completely agree on the soda. I feel pretty poor drinking it, especially if it is before any sort of workout.

And this is the real crux. How to keep it off? I put most of it on during covid so I'm hoping I will re-engage with my more active pre-covid lifestyle. I'll also make an effort to work on reducing sugar intake and portion sizes. But many people have been where I'm going without success..

For me, physical activity is key. When not on keto, I have difficulty with portion size and being active offsets this by a great extent. The healthiest I have been since ending the cyclical keto diet was this past fall, when I trained for a bike race. If you have friends or family that share similar goals, picking a race or just a weekly habit with them can help, at least it has for me. Over time, if I am not held accountable, I let the discipline slip a bit.