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Sure thing. Quick tl;dr about chiropractors is that I had one and just found another one that was around $40 for an adjustment, so to go from moving gingerly because back pain to just a little soreness and full range of motion when I need it is worth that and then some for me when I need it.
WRT Steve Jobs in particular, for me it's all about the alternative medicine plus his patented Reality Distortion Field. We have heard the widespread stories about him being very difficult to work with/for, being mercurial, difficult, manipulative, deceptive, often angry, etc. Then there's the house he bought and left to rot because he despised it and the book Small Fry that his daughter wrote about how he was mostly terrible to her but sometimes wonderful as well. Weird diets, driving without license plates, etc. etc. To me, it definitely smells like Cluster B behavior and the liver cancer is a prime example of the kind of outrageous refusal to truck with reality that I've seen in the borderlines in my own life that puts me in the BPD camp with Steve as opposed to the NPD camp. There's a certain breed of entitled borderlines that at first blush look almost identical to narcissists unless and until they display their flat-out refusal to live in reality, although they may visit there and even room there for a while.
When we get to clinical criteria, I of course am not Scott, but I think Jobs would have to have been one of the highest functioning cluster Bs that we've seen in a long time if he was. Playing armchair therapist/psychiatrist anyway, I think he definitely met the criteria for intense anger, emotional instability, and splitting. Jobs having chronic feelings of emptiness is strongly supported by anecdotal data, eg crying when he got badge #2 at Apple, despair at not being named Time's man of the year in '82, etc. Impulsive behavior is a bit of a harder sell but it's definitely there, so yeah, that's 5 criteria, and I don't think it'd be completely shocking to dig up enough to support frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment and severe dissociation and perhaps paranoid ideation when under stress.
Just keep em away from your neck lol.
Hmmm you make a good case.
I think the counter argument would be going all map vs. territory invalidation and then pointing out that their didn't seem to be much functional impairment, but that's to some extent luck given the way Apple went and the obvious retort is "avoidable cancer."
I guess he does pattern match to "tortured genius artist" types, and outside of obvious bipolars that's gotta be cluster-b.
Yeah, that's a good counterargument for sure. When it comes to functional impairments, that's the terrifying thing about the higher functioning cluster-b types: they're so good at manipulating people that they don't have much trouble compensating for and otherwise masking their PD behaviors and largely passing as normies. According to Andy Herzfeld Jobs' ability was so good that even though Apple employees were aware of it, it was still effective in the moment and only after Steve left would it begin to wear off. He goes on to say that most employees would eventually give up and accept it as a force of nature, which is really the only thing you can do when even quitting is difficult.
PS: I've taken to sleeping with a cervical pillow to help out my neck, seems to have helped! Now if only I could get back into the habit of using my inversion table...
...you know that anecdote makes me wonder if another interpretation of the reality distortion is just nerds being shocked to interact with someone with actual charisma.
If you've ever met with someone high level (especially while young and impressionable) it can be quite stark, your ego gets totally consumed and you just go along with it (and for some people it's not even temporary).
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Good thing I looked up what a cervical pillow was, because I was going to say if a pillow for your cervix helps your neck pain you may a very bad sleeping posture.
Okay, SMH, but still, you get a point for that one. On a serious note, I thank Odin that I'm not a stomach sleeper!
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