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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022

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So, then we move on to the second circle, in which we find the populations of Spain, Portugal, most of Italy, Southern France, Finland, Hungary, and arguably the West Slavs and the Balts. All of these ethnicities have certain aspects that make them non-central examples of Whiteness - such as partial admixture from non-White substrates, like the Finns and the Iberians

This is the biggest issue I have with your piece. It is my it's own definition muddled. The Iberians you talk about are just normal early European farmers like the ones in central Europe or France. The Bell Beakers are already almost 50% EEF before they invade Britain.

I don't know what you consider being white? Is it only Yamna like ancestry? Does Caucasus hunter gather like ancestry count more or less than western European hunter gatherer ancestry? Does the question of whether people descended from those Caucasus hunter gatherers were actually the proto-Indo Europeans like the literature is converging on make a difference? Does the fact that your ancestors were, back in those ancient days very swarthy somehow taint your blood? Should the blue eyes of the western European hunter gatherers count more or less than their dark skin? Did you know western European hunter gatherer ancestry is correlated, both with darker skin and bluer eyes in European individuals?

I think they're saying not that pre-"White" Iberians were not "White", but that the modern Iberians have some admixture from non-"White" groups. And it is true that there is a lot of North African and even some sub-Saharan African admixture in southern Iberia.

So, Galatians are fine then? Iberians means people from Iberia. I assume that means actual native Iberians as opposed to the invading Bell Beaker and Urnfield cultures, or later North Africans. Also, the North African admixture is low; since, so many were expelled after the Reconquista and the western North Africans have large Early European Farmer admixture already anyway.

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