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PaperclipPerfector  2d ago (text post)   1141 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for December 20, 2024

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The hotly anticipated Civilization VII

I would say that I at least have no interest in it even despite the leaders. With the ages mechanic, and not keeping a single civ through the entire game, what they are making isn't Civ any more despite having the same name on the box. And on top of that, not only are they destroying the game (imo of course, YMMV), they're doing to to correct something I don't even agree was a problem that needed solving. So I don't really care who they pick, I'm not interested in a new game wearing the skin of Sid Meier's Civilization.

More on topic, I'm not terribly surprised that they are picking leaders based on DEI. It was a problem in Civ VI already (e.g. Catherine de Medici, Tomyris, Amanitore, etc) and it's unfortunately the case that game studios which start down the path of ideologically driven game decisions don't stop there. For more small scale politically correct game design, I also noticed that they have hopped on the "BCE/CE" bandwagon. It's a small thing, but it is pretty annoying to me as well.

I suspect that the whole "one leader, several civs" mechanic is inspired by DEI, even. Now you can girlboss your way through the millennia, and not just one but several patriarchal empires will bow under you.

I don't think it is, personally. It strikes me as an outgrowth of the (imo misguided) design philosophy of Civ VI where you picked a leader first, and a civ second. They really leaned hard into the leaders in Civ VI, and I think they decided from there that what people really cared about is the leader they pick, not the faction name they have. Thus the decision in VII to go with changing civs but a constant leader, when if anything it should've been the exact opposite.

Am I mis-remembering, or could you match any leader with any civ in, I think, Civ 2?

I know you could in Civ IV (not by default but you could enable it in the options). Not sure about 2, that was before I started playing.

The focus on leaders in 6 was a bit ironic given they made them all look like cartoony caricatures. The 2d and 3d art styles was my biggest annoyance about it.

They should bring back palaces. I loved building them. And have the leaders and throne rooms change during the eras and political systems.

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