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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 2, 2024

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If you're going to lie about which numbers I'm asking for, we're going to sit here all day, and your final argument will be, "If I lie about what numbers you're asking for..., then..." We will just leave it there for posterity.

The number you pay is zero, or some other number chosen by your insurance company and not the hospital. Great I've given you the number that is relevant to you.

The numbers you asked for are not zero, are not what you pay, and are not what your insurance pays. Those are not relevant to you because neither you nor your insurance pays them.

If you're going to lie about which numbers I'm asking for, we're going to sit here all day, and your final argument will be, "If I lie about what numbers you're asking for..., then..." We will just leave it there for posterity.

You have asked for a number of representations of "price" none of which impact your personal bill. I don't think you understand how health insurance works.

I'm not lying about what you've asked for, but I don't think you understand what you asked for.

If you're going to lie about which numbers I'm asking for, we're going to sit here all day, and your final argument will be, "If I lie about what numbers you're asking for..., then..." We will just leave it there for posterity.

I am not lying about which numbers you are asking for. I have responded to the numbers you have asked for, and explained that they don't do what you think they do and gave you a chance to correct my understanding with an example, were you able to furnish one. I even talked about numbers you didn't ask for, and explained how those might be more relevant.

I also tried to make it clear using a metaphor you have used in the past (automotive repair) and with a simplified scenario (the oranges discussion).

In both cases you accused me of "incoherent babbling."

You should not accuse someone of lying when what they are asking for is for you to explain what you mean, and to be clear what that is "explain what relevance the number you are asking for has to your decision making."

If you're going to lie about which numbers I'm asking for, we're going to sit here all day, and your final argument will be, "If I lie about what numbers you're asking for..., then..." We will just leave it there for posterity.

explain what relevance

You can't even identify the numbers we are talking about without lying. We can't get to relevance if you're that clueless/nefarious.

You can't even identify the numbers we are talking about without lying. We can't get to relevance if you're that clueless/nefarious.

If you think I have misunderstood what numbers you are asking for then it is your obligation to correct me and say "I was asking for this." I may then argue that you have changed what you are asking for (and you have), or that you have misunderstood what you are asking for (which is now my argument).

Accusing me of being wrong is reasonable and acceptable. Deciding this discussion is no longer worth your time is reasonable and acceptable. Accusing me of lying is not. If I am wrong, correct me instead of shouting "liar."

If you're going to lie about which numbers I'm asking for, we're going to sit here all day, and your final argument will be, "If I lie about what numbers you're asking for..., then..." We will just leave it there for posterity.

it is your obligation to correct me

I did that. You can go back and read it. Now, you need to show that you are capable of identifying which numbers I'm asking for.

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