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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 2, 2024

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If you're going to lie about which numbers I'm asking for, we're going to sit here all day, and your final argument will be, "If I lie about what numbers you're asking for..., then..." We will just leave it there for posterity.

I don't think you understand that the numbers you are asking for in the situation you are asking for them are untethered from your financial responsibility because of the presence of insurance.

If you're going to lie about which numbers I'm asking for, we're going to sit here all day, and your final argument will be, "If I lie about what numbers you're asking for..., then..." We will just leave it there for posterity.

The number you pay is zero, or some other number chosen by your insurance company and not the hospital. Great I've given you the number that is relevant to you.

The numbers you asked for are not zero, are not what you pay, and are not what your insurance pays. Those are not relevant to you because neither you nor your insurance pays them.

If you're going to lie about which numbers I'm asking for, we're going to sit here all day, and your final argument will be, "If I lie about what numbers you're asking for..., then..." We will just leave it there for posterity.

You have asked for a number of representations of "price" none of which impact your personal bill. I don't think you understand how health insurance works.

I'm not lying about what you've asked for, but I don't think you understand what you asked for.

If you're going to lie about which numbers I'm asking for, we're going to sit here all day, and your final argument will be, "If I lie about what numbers you're asking for..., then..." We will just leave it there for posterity.

I am not lying about which numbers you are asking for. I have responded to the numbers you have asked for, and explained that they don't do what you think they do and gave you a chance to correct my understanding with an example, were you able to furnish one. I even talked about numbers you didn't ask for, and explained how those might be more relevant.

I also tried to make it clear using a metaphor you have used in the past (automotive repair) and with a simplified scenario (the oranges discussion).

In both cases you accused me of "incoherent babbling."

You should not accuse someone of lying when what they are asking for is for you to explain what you mean, and to be clear what that is "explain what relevance the number you are asking for has to your decision making."

If you're going to lie about which numbers I'm asking for, we're going to sit here all day, and your final argument will be, "If I lie about what numbers you're asking for..., then..." We will just leave it there for posterity.

explain what relevance

You can't even identify the numbers we are talking about without lying. We can't get to relevance if you're that clueless/nefarious.

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