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What on Earth is this post supposed to be?
Firstly, we expect a decent amount of effort in top level comments in the CWR thread.
Second, if there's a CW element here, I can't for the life of me see it, unless you're trying to stretch our tolerance for LLM-posting, which is low as is.
Then on top of that, it's a raw, unformatted conversation dump, you haven't even made it clear what it is we're supposed to be engaging with.
I'm removing this and warning you, but I'm leaving it in the hands of the other mods if they'd like to hit you with a ban. Don't do this.
My apologies, late night intoxication
It's alright. I feel a warning that goes on your permanent record was too harsh, so it won't stick.
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I really don't think a ban is warranted. I mean, I don't think a warning is warranted either, but a ban would be outrageous. Nwallins is mostly a very good poster, he said the post was an experiment and he wasn't sure if it would interest others the way it interested him, I think you would have gotten the point across if you had only posted your last sentence and nothing else. And then you wouldn't be further increasing the negative opportunity cost of posting an op to the thread.
If enforcing our rules has a negative opportunity cost, then it's one we must pay.
A warning is just that, a warning, and in the absence of further transgressions, won't have longterm ramifications. I didn't think a ban was warranted myself, but that note was for any other admins who'd wish to act, letting them know I have no strong feelings either way.
If you strongly suspect, as he made clear himself, that something about your post is objectionable (he chose to highlight the lack of formatting), then that's all the more reason to take proactive action and fix the issue. As is, he's getting off with a slap on the wrist.
Of course it is necessary to enforce the rules despite negative consequences. But man that's shortcut thinking regarding warnings - a warning is not just a warning, it is also used to determine the severity of future punishment. In practice unless you guys are familiar with the poster you usually just add infractions and aaqcs together to determine the poster's merit to trouble ratio. And the system doesn't distinguish between types of warnings like "bad formatting" vs "being a shithead on purpose" - even if a poster successfully gets a mod action reversed it is still counted against them the next time they transgress. That is the reality of mod actions as it is internalised by both the users and the mods - as you can see when someone gets a long ban, their recorded actions are weighed and listed to justify the severity.
It would be unreasonable to expect you guys to go through all of a user's history before modding them, especially since you usually do a great job with the system as it is, and I understand the boundaries are in place for a reason and a heavy hand is necessary when the heat gets too high, but with ops I'm just saying I think you should go for a lighter touch if someone tries something different and there's no apparent culture warring.
It does do that. We have notes on the warnings that can be general or specific, and can mention extenuating or aggravating factors.
Ah, maybe I was thinking of times back on reddit but I recall seeing administrative errors and reversed mod actions used to calculate the merit to trouble ratio so I assumed it didn't clarify.
I think the rest of my argument still makes sense, a warning is not just a warning. Nothing is just what it is.
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