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Natives have no cultural power in the US, they have some limited local power in a couple of states at most.
Don't confuse people who exercise the power with people who are nominally this power exercise is benefitting. The Supreme Dictator of the People's Democratic Republic maybe nominally is ruling for the benefit of the people, but he has all the power and the people have none. You can be a lily-white man and still exercise power "on behalf of oppressed minorities" - if you're lucky of course.
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Tell that to the commanders.
They were wiped out in the tidal wave of black identity politics that swept the nation in 2020. Native Americans themselves had almost nothing to do with it.
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This goes too far - "tribal knowledge" is considered verboten in the most PC firms (ask me how i know).
It really has nothing to do with cultural power just as it's rarely black people pushing for "blacklist" to be blackballed.
Ok. How do you know?
I have the misfortune of professionally (well, it's not in my job description, but still) being on the receiving end of products of the DEI consultant industry such as mandatory trainings and style guides with verboten phrases and focus group approved substitutes.
You have my sympathies.
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