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PaperclipPerfector  4mo ago (text post)   2561 thread views

Small-Scale Question Sunday for November 24, 2024

Do you have a dumb question that you're kind of embarrassed to ask in the main thread? Is there something you're just not sure about?

This is your opportunity to ask questions. No question too simple or too silly.

Culture war topics are accepted, and proposals for a better intro post are appreciated.

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Does this place get indexed super fast by Google? The other day I searched for "Kamelanomicon" to see how many people had already made that joke, and we were the top result an hour after posting.
Are their scrapers just that regular these days? I've seen it in several cases where I've tried to look up old phrases or topics mentioned in a recent motte conversation, and that specific convo was in the top results.

Were you searching from a clean browser over a VPN? If not, it's likely that your hit was due to Google Personalized Search. Where a site you have visited in the past that contains a rare keyword is much more likely to be promoted to the top of the results it returns. I'm not sure it's confirmed, but it's possible they use browser fingerprinting for "personalization" as well now. So even on a fresh IP with no cookies, their browsing history linker is able to determine the "user" to personalize for.

Does this place get indexed super fast by Google?

The Motte should take a page from DSL and ban all indexing.

How are we going to attract new users without being indexed by Google?

Word of mouth to friends and acquaintances, mentions in other places, etc. There are options that don't rely on Google.

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