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PaperclipPerfector  5d ago (text post)   1889 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for November 8, 2024

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My personal definition of GenX:

  • if you remember the Kennedy assassination, you’re too old.
  • if you don’t remember the Challenger explosion, you’re too young.

I've got a framework that has served me well in which:

  • cultural generations are 20 years
  • the first and last 5 years of these generations exhibit notable similarities with the adjacent generation, but not quite to the point where they may be usefully considered a separate identity (Xennials = not a thing)

So:

  • people born from 1940-1945 are most like standard boomers, but depending on their specific peer group may have more of a pre-war outlook
  • people born from 1955-1965 are on a spectrum from boomer --> X outlook (basically optimism --> feeling shafted); 1960 is a good inflection point
  • similarly, 1975-1980 exhibits a clear X outlook, and as you move past 1980 people become much more earnest and hipsterish -- by 1985 you are into core timid millenials by and large.

My test for this hypothesis will be "is 2005-2015 core Zoomer, and what are these people like" -- I've got one in the house, and he & his peers do seem to have a different outlook from his older cousins so far -- COVID will clearly be a defining event for these guys, but it remains to be seen exactly how.

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