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naraburns  nihil supernum  12d ago (text post)   26773 thread views

U.S. Election (Day?) 2024 Megathread

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has anyone here updated with regards to the chance of fraud in 2020?

Yes.

The chance of fraud in 2020 went down, since if the Ds did it before, they would've done it again.

This reasoning seem bizarre to me. I'm not saying there was fraud what is common background noise and especially not that it was enough to swing several states, but your reasoning seems to be the equivalent of saying "Well, if the Japanese snuck attack Pearl Harbor, surely they'd pull another Pearl Harbor" it neglects that after that sneak attack, the US was on a much different footing.

The problem being that Trump and republicans were talking about vote fraud in September 2020. If there was fraud, it was not a sneak attack, but rather something subtle enough to get by them while they were watching. So why not again?

Talking about it and actually doing something about it, especially with regards to Trump are very, very different things. Trump talked about fraud a lot but in terms of actual action, he did next to nothing to meaningfully try and thwart any. Four years of smarting over the loss and the GOP workshopping how to actually crack down on where they feel the fraud occurred is an entirely different thing. They were much better prepared this time and had a lot of lawyers working to make sure the rules were as in their favor as possible.

If this is true, you should be able to point to specific stats showing that change in preparation.

So. How many more lawyers did Trump have?

I think January 6 may have genuinely spooked them into deciding that they couldn’t pull that type of thing again in the near future without provoking a civil war.

Unless the Republicans were on the ball in 2024 in a way they weren't in 2020 - filing court cases and working around the clock to make sure polls stayed open in Red areas and poll watchers witnessed everything in blue areas. Even if they don't catch explicit fraud, their actions make it less likely to happen in the first place.

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