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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024

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Well, it would have been stupid and unnecessarily risky for Democrats to rig the vote so hard in 2020 that they won by 7 million popular votes. Presumably, people smart enough and capable enough that they could rig the vote so massively while leaving no clear smoking guns of a massive election steal would also have been smart enough to just win by a safe small margin, not by 7 million popular votes.

people smart enough and capable enough that they could rig the vote so massively while leaving no clear smoking guns of a massive election steal

This would also be an incredible display of competence totally out of line with anything else the DNC has displayed in my lifetime. Any group that could pull off election fraud this massive, with no credible evidence left behind, maybe should be in charge.

This characterization assumes there is a group called 'Democrats' who 'do things' in some top down fashion that can include, among other things, directly manipulating votes. This group sees itself as a representation of all 'Democrats' and then takes into account whether or not doing something would be 'too risky' for them as a group.

To me this characterization makes no sense, and as it asserts a very conspiratorial mechanism for how things have to happen. In the real world it's real people who do things. They don't need to be controlled from the top down to do things that they think benefit their group. Even if there is a conspiracy to do something illegal it would very rarely be rubber stamped by some 'higher up'. Personafying events in the way you do feels very fallacious.

I have similar feelings every time someone misrepresents any assertions about group based behavior in a manner such as this. Not everything needs to be ordained from a higher power. People can just believe things and then do things based on that of their own volition. Their ideas can even be bad!

This characterization assumes there is a group called 'Democrats' who 'do things'

There actually is "a group called Democrats" who do "do things" and they happen to be rather famous/infamous within the context of US politics for thier top-down organization and for exercising strict control over thier subsidiaries.

So nothing can happen anywhere with regards to voter fraud favoring democrats without it being under the control of this group called 'Democrats'?

I'm trying to highlight the contention I made. Which was that the assumption that there has to be a higher power making measured and deliberate decisions in order to facilitate voter fraud is fallacious.

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