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Why can’t it be? (SFW, but loud)
Memes are still human culture, even if it’s sourced from pornography featuring a hilariously overexaggerated orgasm scream. We would as a species be worse off if that didn’t exist, in my opinion.
This complaint about it not being “cultural” kind of sounds like how people launder “natural” to mean “things humans didn’t do”, even though human beings are by definition part of nature so by extension everything they do is “natural”.
It’s like pretending “stop liking what I don’t like” is a valid moral claim in a vacuum.
I think you're misunderstanding the point I'm making. I'm not saying "disgusting fetish art isn't part of human culture": of course it is. I said that human culture isn't enriched by this content. It isn't a net-positive contribution to human culture: it's one of those parts of human culture that we are (or should be) profoundly ashamed of, like child abuse, drug addiction, or pizza with peas and mayonnaise.
I am 100% willing to plant my flag in the earth and say that human culture is worse off as a result of the existence of creepy fetish art, child porn, depraved erotica in the tradition of de Sade etc. Not calling for it to be banned or censored (except for child porn involving literal children, which is already illegal per age of consent legislation), just saying that it makes our culture worse. All things being equal, a culture or subculture which celebrates disgusting fetish art is worse than a culture which doesn't.
As someone who recently came to the same realization, but still hasn't fully come to terms with giving up a fairly enjoyable and rewarding hobby, I'm crossing my fingers for a high-quality debate either here or under @Primaprimaprima's potential post.
What's the hobby? Drawing fetish art?
I'd say "producing fetish media" to be as broad as possible. Mostly hiring people to draw and write stuff, and discussing and developing project ideas with other people. Wasn't really looking to make the thread about myself.
I understand if you'd rather not get any more specific, but mind my asking what kind of media? Anime, manga, video games, erotic literature?
Just art and short fiction. It was a personal hobby, not a business or anything, and I'm not rich.
Edit: I'm confused about the point of this line of questioning, but also don't want to derail the thread further.
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