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We'll probably hit a trunk-or-treat or two before going trick-or-treating either in our own neighborhood or in a friend's. The various local schools and churches that do trunk-or-treats have realized they get better turnout if they schedule them before Halloween, so kids can do both.
I appreciate that the colder weather is killing my tomato plants so I can stop canning so much tomato sauce lol.
wait what is trunk-or-treat? never heard of this
A bunch of people get together in a parking lot and have candy in the trunks of their cars, and the kids go from car to car to get candy. I think it's kinda lame personally, but I can imagine kids enjoying the sheer efficiency of getting candy in that way.
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A bunch of families will set up cars with various candy handouts from the trunk, usually in a moderately sized unused parking lot (eg church) or near some event space. Usually some sort of decoration around each participating car, though I’ve seen some nearly at the level of lower end convention booths.
It’s more popular in rural areas or where there are messy traffic spots between suburban subdivisions, since conventional house-to-house trick or treating can be kinda hard for younger kids there. But it’s sometimes done for weather reasons, too.
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