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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 7, 2024

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By your own presented logic, video evidence is sufficient proof. If this is fake, then why is yours not fake? What makes YOUR belief in veracity superior to this sources? You cannot present proof for one argument and then argue that proof for the converse using the same logic as your argument is invalid. that 'Ukraine fakes video evidence because superior S400 cannot possibly be destroyed by inferior ATACMS' is extremely weak.

no one will tell you what happened because it's likely secret and in any case involves some complex mission profile,

As arguments go, this is weak. Theoretically someone out there has a perfect argument that is so perfect that its mere existence obliterates all other arguments. Thus, the existence of this theoretical means all the other arguments are invalid, even if said theoretical is not actually presented.

This is effectively a religious argument, but for the anti-MIC. God, discounted.

You are free to believe in the superiority of a 3000 buck thermal camera being a superior option that obviates all other equipment. I can give you, for example,

this textdump https://www.ida.org/-/media/feature/publications/a/at/a-tutorial-on-e-lectro--opticalinfrared-eoir-theory-and-systems/ida-document-d-4642.ashx

that comments on exponential decay fidelity of thermal cameras.

But thats not the point is it? Proofs of Gods miracles failing to manifest are not proof of Gods nonexistence, it is merely proof of Gods secret capabilities that are beyond the ken of us mere mortals. The more proof provided that this Gods teachings fail, the more Gods disciples present new arguments out of nowhere to prove that God actually has more tools, so more fool the heretic. Stand proud, for God remains unblemished.

I can tell you that acoustic sensors are the worst failures of detection systems ever because of ambient noise pollution, and you'll come up some something else. I can tell you that beam riders have notorious falloff for BVR aplications because and atmospheric EM diffraction overwhelms OTH signal boosting systems. I can tell you that 'finding a target' out at open sea is in fact REALLY FUCKING DIFFICULT and shore based missile spam is basically being Cao Cao in Zhuge Liangs arrow boat trick at Red Cliff. I can tell you that the failures of the USA in Afghanistan or Prosperity Guardian are definitional in nature because the force was so overwhelming in nature that the normal tasking of 'defeat the enemy' is automatic, with the mission moving to the far more gnarly 'destroy' part, and observers fail to consider that 'defeat' being automatic is not in fact easy.

None of that matters. God, the manifestation of 'cheap stuff better than expensive stuff', is pristine eternally. Belief is all you need. Belief in the superiority of cheap stuff and vranyo. And Belief that your paeans to your God will make him manifest, while ignoring that Gods church is busy sucking down all the heretic dick it can find because its own teachings rotted the house from the inside.

If this is fake, then why is yours not fake?

I didn' say it's fake, I said the evidence for S400 failing to intercept non-evading ballistic missile is nonexistent. It was destroyed but by something more complex. ATACMS is not a missile capable of evasion, it doesn't maneuver and so on. Russia has routinely shot down similar missiles, such as Tochka, during the war.

You are free to believe in the superiority of a 3000 buck thermal camera being a superior option that obviates all other equipment. I can give you, for example,

It doesn't obviate it, it means decent thermal sensors are now available for a very cheap price. I'm not sure how good they're for aerospace applications but the first viable anti-air missiles used a single IR detector and direction was determined by spinning a mask in front of it. That worked pretty well for a while.

Not a 320x240 array. which is what those FPVs use.

I can tell you that 'finding a target' out at open sea is in fact REALLY FUCKING DIFFICULT

Why do you think Chinese put up radar satellites ? Why do you think they have very high altitude rocket recon drones? Do you really think you can hide 200m long 20m high ships from radar ? No, finding giant floating ships at sea is not a 'fucking difficult problem' you just require cope to sustain belief in a way of warfare that stopped being relevant in a superpower context cca 1970. Now it's civilian tech, see this startup here.

force was so overwhelming in nature that the normal tasking of 'defeat the enemy' is automatic

No, I'm saying you are an idiot because 'defeat of enemy' is not automatic when 'enemy' is any structure in Yemen big enough to conceal a viable anti-ship missile, which in this case is small enough so that several can be put into a big truck.

US doesn't have the recon assets to find the 'enemy' in Yemen and never had. It'd require either a solid human intelligence network or vast amounts of small drones operated by entire brigades of techs, neither of which is something US is interested in because it's just not a very good way of getting retirement money or generational wealth, unlike gold-plated weapon systems you know and love..

And Belief that your paeans to your God will make him manifest, while ignoring that Gods church is busy sucking down all the heretic dick it can find because its own teachings rotted the house from the inside.

..are you ok ?

You are free to call me or anyone else an idiot all you want. In fact, you are free to call anyone who develops gold plated stealth systems idiots, like the Russians or the Chinese.

Stupid idiots who cannot see your manifest genius in googling advertised capabilities of thermal cameras and high resolution satellites provided by small scrappy cheap startups. They can see a 20km by 20km space with 30cm fidelity on a geosynchronous position. The size of the pacific ocean within Chinas EEZ is after all only a mere 4 million square kilometers. You only need 40000 satellites in geosynchronous positions and no cloud cover for real time coverage. Oh and a reliance on having an enemy that does not have long range munition delivery platforms that go even further out than 200km from the EEZ. And obviously radar works perfectly aimed at the ocean, which famously is not made up of radar reflective matter. Hint: read up on what radar signals reflect off of before you spout off your next gish gallop of justifications.

You are the smart one, and everyone is an idiot for not making the smart move of spamming scrappy solutions that vranyo clearly delivers as superior to gold plated western tech. The Russian and Chinese MIC keep crowing about their SU57, SU75 and J35 only because they PRETEND to be interested in these capabilities. You are free to call everyone idiots for pursuing this gold plated technology and your own cheap scrappy solutions like the Iranians and Houthis are doing is way better as military tactics and strategies go. Potshotting an enemy to claim victory while hiding among civilians is excellent for propaganda, and the propaganda war is all that matters. Thousands of dead palestinians, yemeni and lebanese are inconsequential when you get to flood telegram with stretched out clips of your munitions hitting one target on repeat.

Stupid idiots who cannot see your manifest genius in googling advertised capabilities of thermal cameras and high resolution satellites provided by small scrappy cheap startups. They can see a 20km by 20km space with 30cm fidelity on a geosynchronous position. The size of the pacific ocean within Chinas EEZ is after all only a mere 4 million square kilometers. You only need 40000 satellites in geosynchronous positions and no cloud cover for real time coverage. O

I suggest taking remedial basic numeracy classes, and also some physics as radars are not greatly affected by clouds. And I didn't imply they needed continuous monitoring. Ships aren't fast, they can move only cca 1000 km per day. Getting a fix every six hours is good enough, and final targeting can be done using high flyingrecon drones at worst.

Those satellites aren't geostationary either, as getting a radar return from up there would require enormous power outputs. The commercial ones are at 600km orbit.

Hint: read up on what radar signals reflect off of before you spout off your next gish gallop of justifications.

Terminal radar guidance of anti-ship missiles is no great secret. It was put into practice in 1960s. It's much easier than using radar to accurately hit ground targets.

J35 only because they PRETEND to be interested in these capabilities.

Chinese are rich enough to research even things they don't really need, and stealth planes have their utility. You, however, seem to think they're a magic bullet.