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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 30, 2024

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I never said disaster relief fund, I said FEMA. Why are you changing the conversation like that?

Because the conversation you replied to was about the FEMA Disaster Relief Fund, whether you wanted to change the topic or not.

Very strange Dean. We were talking about FEMA the whole time.

No, we were talking about FEMA's ability to provide money for disaster relief.

To quote what you were quoting was responding to,

"If the point of FEMA is to provide money, and they can't provide money in an actual disaster, then they have utterly failed."

FEMA's ability to provide money in a disaster is derived from the Disaster Relief Fund. Which is providing money in an actual disaster, and is not unable to do so for the immediate emergency.

So FEMA is supposed to provide money for disaster, but cannot, but is somehow able to shelter and feed millions of illegal migrants? Interesting. How many people know about this? How did this strange twist of fate occur? Is all of this funding issues easily transparent to the common citizen?

So FEMA is supposed to provide money for disaster, but cannot,

And this would be a lie.

“We are meeting the immediate needs with the money that we have." -Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, 2OCT24

but is somehow able to shelter and feed millions of illegal migrants? Interesting.

It is indeed interesting how a state that isn't broke can afford more than one thing budgeted for more than a year apart.

How many people know about this?

Fewer than there were before people who didn't know enough about their own government started to take a Donald Trumpism literally.

How did this strange twist of fate occur?

Because across 2024 Congress made various multiple appropriations multiple times, and in September 2024 Congress provided $20 billion to the Disaster Relief Fund to last 3 months.

Is all of this funding issues easily transparent to the common citizen?

It does require the arcane technology of 'clicking the link provided in the post you replied to', or trying to figure out how to google "FEMA Disaster Relief Fund" to find a top-result of the monthly reports, or the basic civic spirit to follow the publicly reported continuing resolution funding the government through the election season.

Difficulty, I know, but anyone who thinks themselves smarter than a third-worlder should be able to do it.

And this would be a lie.

Why did you omit what he said right after this Dean?

“ . “We are expecting another hurricane hitting. FEMA does not have the funds to make it through the season.”

https://archive.ph/SLBxr

Very strange. I don’t think you’re arguing in good faith, you seem intent on misleading the reader.

It is indeed interesting how a state that isn't broke can afford more than one thing budgeted for more than a year apart.

Not broke? What was our national debt again Dean?

Fewer than there were before people who didn't know enough about their own government started to take a Donald Trumpism literally.

You mean before Trump made people aware of something Leftists are deeply embarrassed about.

It does require the arcane technology of 'clicking the link provided in the post you replied to', or trying to figure out how to google "FEMA Disaster Relief Fund" to find a top-result of the monthly reports, or the basic civic spirit to follow the publicly reported continuing resolution funding the government through the election season.

Those reports don’t contain that information Dean. Cmon now. I attached the fact sheet and not a single mention of the word migrant even. Why are you being misleading again?

At this point I can’t converse with you any longer. It appears your set on not arguing in good faith, and seem intent on hiding/obfuscating information

Why did you omit what he said right after this Dean?

“ . “We are expecting another hurricane hitting. FEMA does not have the funds to make it through the season.”

Because the season is not the immediate needs, obviously.

A claim that FEMA does not have the funds to assist in the immediate disaster is an argument that FEMA does not have the funds for the immediate needs. FEMA can simultaneously have the money for the immediate needs, and not have money for a season, because the amount required for a season is by necessity more than the amount needed for a specific part of the season.

Very strange. I don’t think you’re arguing in good faith, you seem intent on misleading the reader.

That would be your level of incompetence, then, particularly since you have twice tried to ignore the direct statement that the government has the money for immediate needs in a discussion of whether the government has the money for immediate needs.

Not broke? What was our national debt again Dean?

Not beyond the ability to sustain, which is what it means for a government to be not broke.

You mean before Trump made people aware of something Leftists are deeply embarrassed about.

No, because there is nothing about the standard FEMA funding picture to be deeply embarrassed about. There is plenty to critique on communication, on coordination, or electioneering amidst a disaster, but the only people embarrassing themselves on the budget side are those who are demonstrating low awareness of government processes, and discrediting themselves and their critiques in the process.

Those reports don’t contain that information Dean. Cmon now. I attached the fact sheet and not a single mention of the word migrant even.

And thus you just demonstrated the point. There is not a single mention of the word 'migrant' in the Disaster Relief Fund records because the money for migrants was never a part of the Disaster Relief Funds.

Funds for migrant housing came from a different appropriations program, which is not used for the purpose of the Disaster Relief Fund. If you are curious, you can undergo the great ritual of googling to find which program.

Why are you being misleading again?

The path is always confusing for people intent on being lost.