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Small-Scale Question Sunday for September 29, 2024

Do you have a dumb question that you're kind of embarrassed to ask in the main thread? Is there something you're just not sure about?

This is your opportunity to ask questions. No question too simple or too silly.

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You can say haha fuck you doctors lose your careers but you do run the risk of having people die unnecessarily which is my worry (and did happen, but mostly in unsexy ways like missing cancer screenings and dying 5 years later, or being lost to psychiatric follow-up and dying of a heart attack in 15 years that would have been avoided with better medication management).

I think it makes sense for a higher initial inoculation (like being trapped in a train or city bus with a sick person) to result in more severe illness than walking past someone on the way into a grocery store and catching a whiff.

You can say haha fuck you doctors lose your careers but you do run the risk of having people die unnecessarily

That is the place I have been driven to, yes -- I stand by it. Maybe next time the doctors won't be so chickenshit and will stand up for the right thing.

I think it makes sense for a higher initial inoculation (like being trapped in a train or city bus with a sick person) to result in more severe illness than walking past someone on the way into a grocery store and catching a whiff.

I think different doses were tested in the challenge trial, and don't recall that correlation being noted -- the thing about viruses is that the replicate really fast and exponentially. So a couple of infected cells becomes a couple of zillion not much more slowly than a couple of thousand would. But even if this were the case, I am not a literal woods-dwelling hermit -- I know lots of people in cities, some of which were noted hotspots. I myself was in a couple of those cities right up until travel was made difficult in Spring 2020. I did not get covid until for another year or so, and none of those city denizens died; none of them went to the hospital.

How many celebrities could you name, if pressed? I think I could name hundreds, many of whom are pretty old and live in big cities; the only one I could name offhand who is said to have died of Covid is John Prine. This also seems inconsistent with the idea that it was ever an extremely dangerous thing.

Maybe next time the doctors won't be so chickenshit and will stand up for the right thing.

Thus my constant banging of the drum here about political capture and political content in medicine. The right thing is now the left wing horseshit and brainlessness, but again the kernel was there.

I guess it's possible that my intuitions are wrong about viral inoculation, my conceptualization is that low enough inoculation and your immune system clears it before replication time gives you a full illness.

When it comes to celebrities they seem to have mostly hidden in beach houses and such. Colin Powell, Herman Cain, Tommy Lister ...shit why do I only remember intimidating black men.

shit why do I only remember intimidating black men.

Haha not sure -- I admit to have heard of Herman Cain, but not prior to him dying of covid and being relentlessly mocked by all the good people -- Powell certainly counts, I'm surprised that I hadn't heard of his passing. Maybe there were some inconveniences there for the bloody-shirt wavers given that he was not only fully vaccinated, but also apparently "had multiple myeloma, ... surgery for prostate cancer ... and, more recently, Parkinson's disease."

No idea who Tommy Lister is, but if you were a fan prior to covid he counts -- as I said I'm Canadian so know more hockey players than intimidating black dudes.

When it comes to celebrities they seem to have mostly hidden in beach houses and such.

But they (virtually) all got it eventually, right? Same as everyone else.

No idea who Tommy Lister is

Dawg have you not seen The Fifth Element?

Herman Cain was a presidential candidate in the Obama era but Canadian is a good excuse.

re: lethality keep in mind that it's part of the expected course of a disease to eventually become less lethal as it mutates rolling through the population, which was observed with the various covid strains (not to mention the vaccines and immunity slowly building up). Importantly if you look closely a lot of people were pre-registering this so it's not a mere post-hoc justification.

Dawg have you not seen The Fifth Element?

I mean I did, but like 30 years ago and I don't think his name was, like headlining? Certainly the film had other... more memorable elements.

The last part is completely correct of course -- I do recall being told by Serious People at the time that I shouldn't expect it in this case and needed to Take The Vaccine and Stay The Fuck At Home however -- these people need to at least apologize (for this and their even bigger lies) if they want me to help them out -- that's the bottom line.

more memorable elements.

Exactly five of them.

I remember lots of language about flatten the curve until genetic drift, vaccines, and herd immunity kicked in. By the time vaccines rolled out to gen pop it was effectively over, now politicians and public health officials not reopening in a timely fashion is a problem, but it has little to do with the actual medicine and is mostly purity spirals etc.

OK I guess -- but those purity spirals were literally being driven by the people in charge of the healthcare system. Also individual doctors to some extent, although dissenters did face serious consequences from the people in charge of the healthcare system if they spoke publicly, so some people could maybe be considered victims. (chickenshit ones, but I have some sympathy)

So that is my stance: until the people who did this (ie. the people in charge of the healthcare system apologize and give some credible indication that they won't do it again, I will not only not believe and/or comply with anything they say, but will actively oppose them. If that means that the tree of liberty gets watered with the blood of some 85 y.o.'s with multiple myleoma and Parkinsons, it's sad -- but so be it.

The people in charge of the healthcare system are not politicians, they are the administrative state, both within medicine but also just the dems and their media apparatus etc.

Individual doctors were not in charge and just got their marching orders and beliefs via download as per usual.

Healthcare is rotted just like everything else but those tendrils are from elsewhere.

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