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Do you live somewhere very rural or like Florida or something? (can decline to answer b/c opsec).
I'm kind of shocked you haven't run into more.
Rural-ish Canada -- lots of friends & family in the big city though. I don't even know anybody who lost a relative to this. One guy at work (which is remote and had a lot of people in hard-hit areas) had a dad get pretty sick, but he recovered AFAIK.
Virtually everybody got sick at some point though, so I'm not sure that location makes much difference? I don't recall any attempts to correlate infection severity with population density.
Like I said, I'm not quite prepared to believe that the whole thing was made up, but these experiences are just not consistent with a generational plague. And I can't really blame people who are prepared to connect those dots, given the verifiable lies that ~everyone believes due to government reporting/propaganda yet I know to be 100% false. (basically anything to do with the truckers, for starters)
It doesn't need to be a generational plague to overload the medical system, which it did to some extent. If we ever get a generational plague again we are absolutely fucked.
Rural probably does it though, most of the people who had a bad experience were in the city - likely due to close proximity etc, which probably also is why it's way more of a blue tribe concern.
So be it -- if the medical system wants me to care about it, it needs to not jerk me around. Sorry-notsorry.
You think that proximity makes infection severity worse? Frequency, sure -- but I don't think I've heard anyone assert that IFR is worse in cities before.
If the generational pandemic only kills people in the city (not including my relatives there apparently, who were fine) I am ambivalent at best. Most of our current national issues are driven by overcrowded cities, and 'plague' might be close enough to 'natural attrition' for me...
You can say haha fuck you doctors lose your careers but you do run the risk of having people die unnecessarily which is my worry (and did happen, but mostly in unsexy ways like missing cancer screenings and dying 5 years later, or being lost to psychiatric follow-up and dying of a heart attack in 15 years that would have been avoided with better medication management).
I think it makes sense for a higher initial inoculation (like being trapped in a train or city bus with a sick person) to result in more severe illness than walking past someone on the way into a grocery store and catching a whiff.
That is the place I have been driven to, yes -- I stand by it. Maybe next time the doctors won't be so chickenshit and will stand up for the right thing.
I think different doses were tested in the challenge trial, and don't recall that correlation being noted -- the thing about viruses is that the replicate really fast and exponentially. So a couple of infected cells becomes a couple of zillion not much more slowly than a couple of thousand would. But even if this were the case, I am not a literal woods-dwelling hermit -- I know lots of people in cities, some of which were noted hotspots. I myself was in a couple of those cities right up until travel was made difficult in Spring 2020. I did not get covid until for another year or so, and none of those city denizens died; none of them went to the hospital.
How many celebrities could you name, if pressed? I think I could name hundreds, many of whom are pretty old and live in big cities; the only one I could name offhand who is said to have died of Covid is John Prine. This also seems inconsistent with the idea that it was ever an extremely dangerous thing.
Thus my constant banging of the drum here about political capture and political content in medicine. The right thing is now the left wing horseshit and brainlessness, but again the kernel was there.
I guess it's possible that my intuitions are wrong about viral inoculation, my conceptualization is that low enough inoculation and your immune system clears it before replication time gives you a full illness.
When it comes to celebrities they seem to have mostly hidden in beach houses and such. Colin Powell, Herman Cain, Tommy Lister ...shit why do I only remember intimidating black men.
Haha not sure -- I admit to have heard of Herman Cain, but not prior to him dying of covid and being relentlessly mocked by all the good people -- Powell certainly counts, I'm surprised that I hadn't heard of his passing. Maybe there were some inconveniences there for the bloody-shirt wavers given that he was not only fully vaccinated, but also apparently "had multiple myeloma, ... surgery for prostate cancer ... and, more recently, Parkinson's disease."
No idea who Tommy Lister is, but if you were a fan prior to covid he counts -- as I said I'm Canadian so know more hockey players than intimidating black dudes.
But they (virtually) all got it eventually, right? Same as everyone else.
Dawg have you not seen The Fifth Element?
Herman Cain was a presidential candidate in the Obama era but Canadian is a good excuse.
re: lethality keep in mind that it's part of the expected course of a disease to eventually become less lethal as it mutates rolling through the population, which was observed with the various covid strains (not to mention the vaccines and immunity slowly building up). Importantly if you look closely a lot of people were pre-registering this so it's not a mere post-hoc justification.
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