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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 16, 2024

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So this woman suffered a complication from legal abortion. It’s unclear whether the hospital screwing up the treatment caused it to turn fatal or whether she wouldn’t have survived. Either way, hospital care was indisputably legal.

This is, as you accurately note, 0% about Georgia’s abortion laws. But, of course, just like Kate Cox was going to die if she didn’t get an abortion(she wasn’t), that’s the narrative the media has to run with. And it’s right before an election, so the media needs to ham it up, constantly lying, for 6 weeks. Left wing misinformation it is.

Well as the right is so often doing, they are 'directionally correct', abortion bans do cost the lives of mothers the world over.

This is the first time the news media is claiming a woman died from an abortion ban. It is, of course, a lie- this doesn’t have anything to do with Georgia’s abortion law- but there seemingly haven’t been any previous cases of women dying in ways more plausibly connected to red state abortion laws.

When you get down to it, pro-choice arguments that women are dying are some sort of unfalsifiable motte retreated to when an individual woman turns out to be dead of her own bad decisions(as with this woman’s decision not to seek medical care during multiple days of bleeding through her pads hourly). If there are women dying from red state abortion laws, show me the receipts. The media’s eagerness to- falsely- tie this to Georgia’s heartbeat law is evidence that there aren’t any.

It might not be the perfect case, but maybe black people shouldn't have ride in the back of the bus.

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What the fuck does that have to do with anything? By all appearances of the case, this woman would still be dead if the same scenario happened in New York State.

My point was you won't always have the most sympathetic or logical subject to prove your policy goal. You just take what you've got and run with it. Blocking abortions does indeed kill mothers, even if it didn't in this case.

Blocking abortions does indeed kill mothers

Again, show me the receipts. The fact that the media hasn’t already done so points to it being because there aren’t any.

There is a history of famous cases of women in pro-life jurisdictions dying of pregnancy related complications, and without exception the care that would have saved them was legal, it just wasn’t administered either due to malpractice(the Irish case used as justification for repealing the 8th) or the woman’s own poor decisions(if this woman had gone to the hospital when she started experiencing complications she would probably be alive right now). The media clearly wants to point to unambiguous cases of pro-life laws killing women and it’s not doing so; the most plausible reason is because there aren’t any.

Wait what? Every abortion ban country has a ton of related deaths. What are you on about?

I see this claim a lot, usually provided without any decent evidence. It seems to be a fundamental assumption of pro-choice worldviews.

I am under no obligation to treat this fundamental assumption as a postulate, so I repeat myself:

Again, show me the receipts. The fact that the media hasn’t already done so points to it being because there aren’t any.