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Wellness Wednesday for August 14, 2024

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

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It's kind of sad because it means I can't get any of the sacraments, but what can you do.

Have you inquired into a radical sanation?

A lot of people online will say stuff like "you don't have a valid marriage so leave",

That kind of rules-lawyering makes me furious. This shows the downside about having a lot of explicit rules, people think that the explicit rules in canon law or the catechism matter more than basic moral law of keeping sacred vows.

Have you inquired into a radical sanation?

No, I was actually unaware that existed. I probably won't go for it yet, but in time maybe. For right now I think that I agree with what the priest at my parish has told me: trust the Lord, if he wants us to have our marriage blessed by the Catholic church he'll lead my wife in the right direction in due time.

That kind of rules-lawyering makes me furious. This shows the downside about having a lot of explicit rules, people think that the explicit rules in canon law or the catechism matter more than basic moral law of keeping sacred vows.

Yeah, I know. I think it's silly too, but that's humans for you I guess.

I'm not familiar with the canon law nor am I at this time a practicing Catholic, but from glancing online the radical sanation path might make a lot of sense.

You know much more about your wife's concerns than I do. But speaking as someone from a protestant background -- any sort of formal submission to Catholic authority, even on a matter about which there is agreement, can be very, very scary. I mean, I hope you and your wife both meant your vows to be for life, considering foreseeable possibilities, in accordance with the divine teaching. Do you think she's more concerned about signing a document that says she's signing on to Catholic teaching, or more concerned about making a pledge that she interprets as closing her off from a divorce should you do something radical, which of course you would never do, like have an affair?

I definitely think it's more the latter. She has no intention of just giving up on our marriage lightly, but she also doesn't want to sign a pledge saying she isn't going to divorce me because of extreme cases like what you mentioned. Infidelity, abuse, etc.