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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 29, 2024

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If you truly think Muslim immigration is the worst problem facing Europe, then that person needs to accept LGBT rights, a massive welfare state, supporting Ukraine, and so on, and you might get somewhere.

Absolutely not, the polar opposite. A few years ago an Afghan migrant stabbed 8 people in a town not to far from where I live and essentially nothing happened. If the king had brought in a bunch of Afghans into that town in 1900 and the Afghans stabbed people they would have been kicked out. If anything it is doubtfull whether a bunch of Afghans would have been allowed in at all. While today's elite hide in suburbs far from problems the aristocrats of yesteryear would have been sent in first to deal with problems. I worked in a tech park in which thousands of tech workers worked and a few gangs of youths terrorized the place. It would have been completely unthinkable that a group of muslims in the past could have terrorized an area with thousands of men and nothing would have happened.

The issue is not migration, the issue is atheism, no-fault divorce, LBGT, obesity, lack of classical architecture, consumerism and hollywood. The issue isn't migration, it is a symptom. Migration happened because countries are weak and won't be reversed until countries heals. In many ways migration might actually be highly beneficial. We need muslim migrants to act as battering ram to deal with the welfare state and pride. Islam might very well be what saves us from diversity.

More LGBT and Ukraine flags means weaker people and more migration.

Divorce rates actually peaked before the introduction of no-fault divorce. No fault divorce isn’t a law I particularly like, but ante hoc ergo propter non hoc.

The issue is not migration, the issue is atheism, no-fault divorce, LBGT, obesity, lack of classical architecture, consumerism and hollywood. The issue isn't migration, it is a symptom.

Wouldn't many of those things also be symptoms?

Lack of classical architecture, really? Maybe a change in architecture is a symptom of cultural decline, sure, but it does not seem to function very well as an explanation. Likewise I suspect something like obesity is more of a symptom than a cause.

Things like LGBT acceptance always involve some element of atomizing hostility towards traditions that bind people together. They cause their own dysfunction.

So maybe a bit like the cold that kills you after AIDS.

Ukraine flags means weaker people

I am curious why you think that support to country in a serious war, defending against more powerful invader is somehow indicating being weak.

lack of classical architecture

To select this one: surely it is also symptom, not a root cause?

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