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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 15, 2024

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But all those traits are basically genetically determined, especially when you get to the top end of any sport, the silver medalist isn't silver instead of gold because they didn't try hard enough or something. They studied top swimmers and found long arms compared to torso length is very important.

I don't think I ever expressed any problem with genetics, or the winners of sports being determined by genes. Perhaps you have me confused with some other commentor.

I just don't understand your criteria, why is hand eye coordination ability athletic and height not? Why is a longer wingspan vs height athletic and not just height? Why are more fast twitch or slow twitch muscle fibers athletic and not height?

We've had a long back and forth, did you already explain in one your posts why height should be considered part of athleticism?

I could be convinced wingspan is the same as height and should be used to ignore sports that favor it too much.

To be consistent you would have to discount all genetic gifts or none of them. You can't do that without writing off sports/athletes as nothing but a ballistic glide path once you're shot out of the womb.

Why does genetic gift or not matter? That's like me saying to be consistent you need to care about only water sports or only land sports. You e created the distinction and you insist I follow it. No. It's not something I think matters as a distinction, I thought we'd get past this when I made my position on determinism clear

So you're just picking random genetic traits that you think are "athletic" and others that you deem "non-athletic", it is just a personal feeling then?

It's a personal feeling about what is "athletic". It's not random.

I'm not sure if any traits are not genetic, so I don't even know what would be non genetic athletic traits. Even willpower seems genetic to me.

I'm still confused about how you define athletic. How does being really tall make you a good athlete?

Ok then so this is just how you feel about athletic traits. Nothing objective or quantifiable. Just trying to understand, and now I do. It is cjet79's personal preferences.

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