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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 8, 2024

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Okay, I'm not 100% sure what you're saying here, but none of it seems to have anything to do with what I said on the object level.

Just as it's misleading to dismiss criticisms Tracing's conduct during and since the LibOfTikTok affair as old grudge, given that a part of the bad behavior was the non-repentance, which is itself ongoing behavior.

So...? That's not a counterargument. Misleading comments or misleading articles don't justify misleading responses here. An ongoing problem is not an old grievance.

And Tracingwoodgrains's continual denial that they did anything morally or ethically wrong with the LibsOnTikTok is an ongoing problem is an ongoing problem, and one they and their defenders have tried to dismiss on the accusation that the issue is nothing more than an old grievance others are raising.

The point isn't that the subject of the slam piece is not an ongoing problem- the point is that it's not the only ongoing problem. Both actions can be wrong, and both can be ongoing, and both can have dated back years, but only one side has trying to dismiss criticism on the grounds of 'old grievance.'

This is special pleading. 'Old grievance' applies to both equally whether that's equally well or equally badly, and so either an ongoing problem cannot be dismissed as merely an old-grievance (which seems to be your perspective), in which case Tracing's defense argument is undercut, or ongoing problems can be dismissed on grounds of old-grievance, in which case Tracing's post can be dismissed on the same grounds.

So you agree that your comment is misleading...? Like, I'm not talking about Tracing here. I don't know why you are.

You just spent weeks digging through old grievances dating back a decade

Either it is an old grievance or it is an ongoing problem. Whatever Tracing wrote has no impact on this.

So you agree that your comment is misleading...?

Are you unfamiliar with the rhetorical technique of demonstrating the flaws in another's argument by using it against them?

Like, I'm not talking about Tracing here. I don't know why you are.

Because you are replying to a post that was about Tracing, about an argument Tracing used, which was using Tracing's argument against them to demonstrate why Tracing's argument was a flawed.

If you are not talking about Tracing here, you are not talking about the topic.

Either it is an old grievance or it is an ongoing problem. Whatever Tracing wrote has no impact on this.

What Trace wrote has a direct impact on this, because the line was specifically pulled from Tracing's own defense.

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