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I think there's some element of that, but I don't think that's entirely it. There are definitely people who have sexual thoughts about turning into the opposite sex, but as progressives say, sex is not gender. Reality does not offer anything close to what that experience would be like if it could actually happen, and I think that's pretty obvious to even a casual observer.
I'm pretty certain that in cases of people into coding, wargaming and other almost exclusively male interests and the like, the 'entirety of it' grows on the scaffolding of 'sexual target identification error' which is thought to be behind autogynephilia. People 'fall in love' with the idea of themselves as women.
Yeah which is why ostensible 'women' with stereotypically male interests and male attitudes raise so much eyebrows.
Right, I get that, but that's not my point. I understand the fantasy. But trying to live the fantasy I don't think would bring them the things they want out of the fantasy. If it's something like "Women are hot and feminine. I want to be hot and feminine," well you're not going to be hot or feminine, you're going to be a dude in a dress. If you want to know what sex is like for a woman, surgery is not going to get you that.
I am saying that I would generally imagine that most with autogynephilia would desist with acting out their autogynephilia in public in disappointment. Not all, but a significant percentage.
Yes, but there's a subset of them who aren't dissuaded by "it'd look terrible and it pisses people off when you aren't being subtle about it".
Which is probably why there's a missing middle of AGPs that want to do it but are more conscious of how they look while doing it (you know, like an actual woman would). But then again, if they were all wearing dress appropriate for the environment and not insisting on going into women's bathrooms while obviously male it would be a non-issue.
From an AGP standpoint, there's nothing qualitatively different between "just the underwear and one of those utility-type skirts that are basically just shorts without the pant legs" and "the showiest red dress you can find"- they're both female clothes, so they should both scratch that itch. It's the fact that they take it beyond parody/have terrible fashion sense/aren't satisfied with the clothes alone that's 99% of the issue.
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Delusions are very powerful. I used to go to lunch with a psychologist, he said that every single trans person he knows is deluded about the outcome of these procedures.
It's unclear what % want to transition as long as it is what it is, but it's believed to be at least half. Hard to find out, but /u/tailcalled (on reddit) did some research thru surveys on it..
There's a lot of people who get off on that and are not really bothered by being guys.
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