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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 1, 2024

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I appreciate the thoroughness and earnestness of your list of stuff that presidents have done that you disapprove of, but none of those is worse than trying to overpower a presidential election after the fact with procedural trickery.

Anyway, come on. Trump is a shady guy. He always has been. Trump University was indefensible, and that's par for the course for him.

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Anyway, come on. Trump is a shady guy. He always has been.

More or less shady that multiple forcible rapes, and burning multiple dozens of men, women and children alive for a PR stunt?

I appreciate the thoroughness and earnestness of your list of stuff that presidents have done that you disapprove of, but none of those is worse than trying to overpower a presidential election after the fact with procedural trickery.

Actually, both sides of politics got involved trying to do this in Florida in 2000.

There were genuine issues at stake there. When the courts spoke, both sides accepted the result. Not even remotely comparable.

My point isn’t that Trump isn’t shady. My point is that most presidents are shady.

And I think you are way off. If you think, for example, the President unilaterally illegally prosecuting a war (usurping a key power of congress with not even a fig leaf of congressional approval) with the far reaching impacts war can have is at least not in the same neighborhood as trying but failing to use hokey legal arguments to stay in power then I just don’t trust your judgement. Ditto with incarcerating thousands of Americans for the crime of being Japanese. Ditto conspiring with the IC to actively undermine free and fair elections in the US (that one HAS to be in the same ballpark — it is about illegally obtaining the presidency albeit more subtlety but with more success). The idea that Trump was unique just elevates current fixation on J6 over a broader historical perspective.

"But what about all this other stuff that I really disagree with...!"

I accept your opinion that it is bad, but it is a different kind of thing than shadiness.

See it really is just your opinion against mine despite you seemingly keep trying to insinuate that only I have an opinion. Agree to disagree.

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