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There’s also option c)- democrats are delusional and think their race/gender agenda is popular.
There’s some support for this- democrats who acknowledge that CRT and trans is unpopular tend to be begging their fellow democrats to shut the fuck up about the topics.
If someone is actually smart and self-aware, and then bans all research into like, aircraft development for some reason, then they will integrate the knowledge of that ban back into their information system.
If you ban aircraft research, then you know that you do not know aircraft capabilities, and will adjust your thinking accordingly.
Failing to reintegrate their information control back as uncertainty is not an argument in favor of Democratic governance.
No, it isn’t. In fact I explicitly called democrats delusional. I simply disagree that anti-white racism is a major part of their motivation, even as it clearly has some place in their coalition.
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Further evidence for this comes from Hollywood and other businesses - organizations addicted to making money but seem incapable of not leaving money on the table by fucking with their customers etc because of obviously unpopular woke politics.
A lot of those woke movies also suck as movies, though. I think a lot of it is shoveling woke in to try to shield the directors/writers from criticism.
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