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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 10, 2024

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How do you know it's performative progressiveness and not the genuine beliefs of the people which act that way? Is there any way to test for this?

Does whether it is performative or not impact anything about a jury selected from Austinites?

Yes, genuinely held beliefs probably have some philosophical or moral reasoning that has led to a broadly consistent set, rather than ones which are sharply contradictory or inconsistent.

How exactly would you propose distinguishing between "genuine" beliefs and performative ones? Why wouldn't they lead to similar kinds of behavior? Is there a chance that performative beliefs may result in even more extreme actions than genuine ones?

And I'll point that even and maybe especially "genuine" beliefs are not free of contradiction or inconsistency and are not necessarily rooted in philosophical or moral reasoning.

I appreciate the dozen different irrelevant counter claims or suggestions that the opposite may be true, but I think this all demonstrates why accusing random strangers' actions of being performative is just a boo-outgroup exercise.

They aren't irrelevant at all. You're hung up on my use of the word "performative" and I'm pointing out that it doesn't matter if it's true in the sense that you've interpreterd it or that this interpretaion may even make my point stronger. There's not even necessarily a reason to think that performativity precludes sincerity, so your perception of this as "booing" is really just your own built in assumption, as I tried to point out.

How does it not matter, and how does that make your point stronger, and how can something be sincere and also performative? My assumption is based on what you wrote, nothing is built-in.

Performativity simply means that the priority is projecting an image or impression, i.e. performing. It doesn't mean that the person performing can't actually believe the things they claim.

I believe you've done a motte and bailey by conflating the common public meaning of performative with a dictionary sociology meaning.

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