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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 27, 2024

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I think that Russia did not particularly want to go to war, and would have been quite easily persuaded not to with concessions/guarantees (eg. recognition of their possession of Crimea/Donbass) that would not have been overly painful to anyone.

Nobody was prepared to facilitate this (particularly not the State Dept, probably because they kind of didwant Russia to go to war), and now the situation has changed such that Russia would probably require significantly more serious concessions to stop doing what they are doing.

That is just an opinion that does seem to differ with Russian actions.

does seem to differ with Russian actions.

Well it would, wouldn't it? Considering that 'facilitate negotiations to work things out non-violently' also differs from Western actions.

Explain?

When has the west done non-defensive violence? Are NATO troops in Russia?

Explain?

Nobody was prepared to facilitate this (particularly not the State Dept)

'facilitate negotiations to work things out non-violently' also differs from Western actions.

Explain how the west failed to facilitate non-violent negotiations?

Umm -- by not facilitating any negotiations?

You do realize Russia invaded Ukraine correct?

The US can’t just call up Russia and make them negotiate.

The US can’t just call up Russia

Of course they can -- they do it all the time. Russia even provided an opening bid for negotiations around limiting NATO expansion in Ukraine back in December 2021 -- State just needed to pick up the ball.

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particularly not the State Dept, probably because they kind of didwant Russia to go to war

What's your source for that?

The way that they and the journalists that they feed with stories were pounding on the war drums from about Christmas on.

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