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I wasn't thinking about the forums only, also more generally. Punk used to be considered an actual threat to society, evidence of civilizational decay. It is interesting that it has become a moniker for "fighting for what's right" and so on, even among the more conservative section. Likewise, being "countercultural" by itself would indicate being satisfied with a certain niche status instead of taking over the actual general culture - sure, countercultural movements have gone mainstream, many times, but this has also meant a loss of status inside the self-considered "counterculture" itself.
I dunno, it's not exactly mind-blowing that even people I'm vehemently against are fighting for what they believe is right. I also have no issues admitting it takes a special kind of person to commit to such a fight, when all "respectable" society is against you, and to admire that, even when I disagree with what they're trying to achieve.
Oh, that might be an actual thing that changed. I think there's a whole bunch of factions, not just conservatives, that written off mainstream society, and are just looking for ways for their communities to survive whatever the powers that be have in store for us.
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