zeke5123a
1d ago
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Biden pardoned a bunch of people at the end of his admin.
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J6 enforcement was extreme compared to say BLM rioting. The whole point of the pardon power is to correct injustices. The extreme disparate treatment was injustice.
zeke5123a
1d ago
People recognize that the left has embraced stochastic interference where they hope for ICE to slightly misstep in a viral moment to condemn the entire project.
The only rational response is to say “good riddance”
zeke5123a
1d ago
This ignores the context that she had been barricading the road for four minutes. An LEO trying to get you out of the car was an obvious outcome and really ought not create panic.
The panic meme is consistent with “random place at the wrong time” meme. We known that meme is false. Based on video and the context, the panic meme appears false as well.
zeke5123a
1d ago
A problem is that you need a lot of people to do British style policing. Blue states won’t share resources.
zeke5123a
2d ago
I don’t think domestic terrorist in the right word. But she was part of an organized group trying to illegally, routinely thwart the legal exercise of federal police power. She was targeting civilians so I don’t terrorism fits the bill. But it isn’t civil disobedience either. It’s some third category.
zeke5123a
2d ago
I do wonder if the cop is worried that putting out any statement could be seen as admitting guilt.
zeke5123a
2d ago
Take the NYT example. It on the one hand says “the officer appears to be hit.” It then says “but if we look at it from the different angle the officer isn’t run over” (note the quote may be off but substance is accurate).
The impression they are trying to give is that the officer wasn’t hit at all. But they choose their words carefully to be both true but misleading. The officer wasn’t run over but he was hit which helps create reasonable fear.
zeke5123a
2d ago
I think one of the big problems is people have information about what happened afterwards but are attributing that to the actions before hand.
zeke5123a
2d ago
I think this is a mistake. Marriage is about conferring status to a couple who will copulate. It should only happen in the context of a serious relationship but the primary thing is child rearing.
Giving the same status to people who a priori cannot procreate ignores the telos of marriage and lowers the status of procreation.
zeke5123a
2d ago
Fair point but Spanish and not Anglo world.
Interestingly people like Pinochet don’t command near the cultural respect as say Fidel despite Pinochet leaving Chile a lot better off compared to Fidel in Cuba.
zeke5123a
2d ago
I don’t think you can find more than five examples of things ICE has done outside of immigration enforcement when the thing wasn’t clearly incidental to enforcement (eg the attempted enforcement in the Good situation where Good was interfering with ICE activity)
zeke5123a
2d ago
First, you are being an ass. I didn’t ask you to mod for an opinion I disliked. I’m pointing out the other poster made an inflammatory factual claim that is obviously false but you won’t do shit about it.
Second, you stated it would be reasonable to mod if the other poster claimed ICE was killing a bunch of people. Well, if I made that claim and then said “when I use the word kill, I mean arrest” you would rightfully see that as fucking bullshit.
Here, there is settled definition of the word kidnap. You have google. Read it. It is the unlawful taking of a person. There is zero evidence ICE is routinely kidnapping people. The other poster made a factually absurd claim with zero evidence and your defense of it is “the other poster gets to define commonly used words to mean something opposite to their common usage without saying he or her are doing such a thing.”
That would be deadly to the site. It is principled to argue against it.
zeke5123a
2d ago
I think the larger point here is this is happening numerous times a day, day in and day out.
You play this out a thousand times something will go sideways in an encounter. This was that encounter.
The leftist harassing ICE is stochastic hoping for a viral moment.
zeke5123a
2d ago
Nonsense. ICE wasn’t barricading a road. The decedent was barricading the road. Again ICE wasn’t the one who randomly grabbed this woman. She went out of her way to find ICE and get in ICE’s way.
zeke5123a
2d ago
Kidnapping suggests illegal. Where is the illegality? Now you are going to say that lefties can define words to mean other than commonly defined terms.
You mod for much less absurd things.
zeke5123a
3d ago
It isn’t just absence is taken for granted but the left don’t really have a model for why different jdx have different levels of wealth outside of colonialism/ racism which doesn’t really explain much after examination.
So the right believes culture / genes matter. The left doesn’t.
zeke5123a
3d ago
Except that isn’t what the other poster did. The poster said we are so worried about tyranny that we don’t worry about anarchy enough and anarchy is worse than tyranny.
That is not what you ascribed to the other poster.
This reminds me of Peterson’s complaint that we have a lot of antibodies for when the right goes too far but none for when the left goes too far.
zeke5123a
3d ago
But how is “they are kidnapping us” not an inflammatory claim without sufficient evidence?
Your moral compass seems broken.
Charlie Kirk by all accounts was a good man and father. He was murdered sitting on a college campus engaging in debate. His murder was fundamentally an attack on free speech and democracy itself. Better to silence your opponents with murder as opposed to best their arguments.
In contrast, Good wasn’t just some protestor who was shot. She was patently illegally barricading the road to prevent lawful exercise of the police power. She then attempted to flee arrest with reckless disregard for the life of LEO. Indeed, if the car didn’t spin out she almost certainly seriously injured the officer who killed her. She did in fact strike an officer with her car.
She was, in one sense, a low level insurrectionist. She could be compared to Babbit.
Comparing her to Charlie is an insult to Kirk and principles of free speech.
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