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Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 Thou calledst me a dog before thou hadst a cause. But if I am a dog, beware my fangs.🍞🌹
1d ago
Aren’t the first two of those reversed headlines still passive?
No. "$NOUN_PHRASE results in $NOUN_PHRASE" and "$NOUN_PHRASE turns $ADJECTIVE" are both in the active voice in English.
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1d ago
Only the first two of your examples are in the passive voice. "$NOUN_PHRASE turns $ADJECTIVE" and "$NOUN faces $NOUN_PHRASE" are both active-voice sentences.
For further information, search 'passive voice' on Language Log.
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1d ago
The problem with assertion such as these is that modern society is really its own extraordinary thing. From his food to his health to his habits to his reproduction, man is unlike other animals, and modern man is unlike other men.
"All philosophy written before the Industrial Revolution is best forgotten." --Justin B. Rye
The passive voice will do your dirty work, shunning perhaps. It’s like the woke saying ‘freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences’ – who will administer the consequences, exactly?
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7d ago
Although, with that being said, I read the White House presser and it is laser-focused on drugs. I would not be shocked if the stated explanation is the real one, or at least a meaningful part of it.
So someone just needs to get through to him that there's probably more fentanyl going from US->CA than the other way?
(Also, am I the only one who finds it annoying when the newsreaders refer to it as 'fentanol'[sic]? '-anol' has a specific meaning in chemistry.)
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9d ago
"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity."
To which some wiseacre responded "You have a better way of making more virgins?".
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13d ago
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15d ago
You can't separate them. The benefits to society from saving the more functional addicts are a karmic reward for being a society that regards human lives as worth effort to save even if they don't benefit society.
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15d ago
the classes of people he thinks are responsible
Turbulent priests?
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16d ago
We have gotten to an odd place where people can nonchalantly talk about fighting police weekly and utilizing millions of dollars of public resources as "rights".
I think OP is referring to the 'negative' rights, such as 'not being involuntarily committed unless a danger to oneself or others'. (Mr Have-you-considered-stopping would fall under that exception; Ms Here's-your-follow-up-appointment wouldn't.)
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17d ago
medical costs when people get sick and cannot pay
I wouldn't call that a 'waste', per se, if the medical services billed for are needed by the patient and actually provided to them. (If doctors are getting paid for procedures that were never performed, on patients who never existed, throw the Physicians' Desk Reference at them.)
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18d ago
This doesn't come across as any less rude, because it is still making the claim "It is my business what genitals you were born with.", which is the exact claim to which trans people and their allies object!
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18d ago
willful blindness to how woman + man is what makes babies
It is not 'wilful blindness' to reject the axiom that '"is" implies "ought"'.
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18d ago
the adoptive and/or step parent is never the real / biological one
I disagree with your assertion¹ that the the biological parent is necessarily the real parent. If we are to extend respect to the title of 'father', a man who spends eighteen years consoling a child when they have nightmares, teaching them how to care for themself, attending their events, &c., &c., is far more worthy of that respect than someone whose only contribution was spending five minutes naked and horizontal.
¹Remember, when you assert, you make an ass out of the Emergency Response Team.
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18d ago
But moving on to your actual objection, there are all sorts of unethical things that you could do to make children: you could kidnap women, keep them underground, perform IVF on them, take the baby away, rinse and repeat for 20 years and that’s 20 babies per woman.
The unethicalness of that comes not from the 'babies not being raised by their biological parents' part but from the 'women being coerced' part. Forcing a woman to be a surrogate is no more a general argument against surrogacy than agricultural slavery is a general argument against agriculture.
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21d ago
In other words, Black Women Are Less Likely? (Slate Star Codex, February 2015)
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24d ago
Not until 2020 did Florida scale back its ~1000hour license for interior residential decorating.
Was that the one they put in place after an interior decorator killed sixteen Czechoslovakians?
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24d ago
So, if J. R. R. Tolkien had been Chinese, Lord of the Rings would have been wuxia, and the Silmarillion would have been xianxia?
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25d ago
The states were made for the people, not the people for the states.
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25d ago
[land] should be returned to the states
Or the Native Americans/Indians/First Nations/whatever the preferred nomenclature is this week.
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25d ago
But that cry of pain from the hound had blown all our fears to the winds. If he was vulnerable he was mortal, and if we could wound him we could kill him.
Arthur Conan Doyle, The Hound of the Baskervilles.
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27d ago
I think I see where you're coming from. I suspect that the candidate may have been grasping at the concept of universalisability, in the Kantian sense. (See "You Kant Dismiss Universalizability", Slate Star Codex, May 2014.)
Catholicism and Protestantism are the type specimens for freedom of religion in Western political thought, precisely because 16th- and 17th-century Catholics believed that 'everyone has the right to save their souls through converting to Catholicism, adhering to Catholic faith, and worshiping Jesus Christ according to the teachings of the Holy Roman Church', and 16th- and 17th-century Protestants believed, just as strongly, that 'everyone has the right to save their souls through converting to Protestantism, adhering to Protestant faith, and worshiping Jesus Christ according to the principle of sola scriptura'; they also both believed that they had the right to impose the true religion by force on those who did not accept it willingly.
This culminated in the Thirty Years' War, which caused a six-foot decrease in altitude for 4-12 million people; seeking to avoid further bloodshed, Europe and its descendants arrived at today's conventional understanding of religious freedom; that if Mary believes in Catholicism and Elizabeth believes in Protestantism, Mary has the right to be Catholic without interference from Elizabeth, and Elizabeth has the right to be Protestant without interference from Mary; each doing unto the other as she would have the other do unto her. (This is the 'reciprocal liberty' of the Quakers, described in Albion's Seed.)
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27d ago
So I followed up, "For example, would it be a 'universal human right' to save one's soul through worship Jesus Christ in the one-true-way of Catholic faith?"
The candidate replied, "You mean the right to religion? Yes, the right to religion would be a universal human right."
And I said, "No, I mean specifically the right to save one's soul through, specifically, converting and adhering to Catholic faith."
"Yes, that is a subset of the right to one's religion. If you have come to the conclusion that Catholicism is true, wish to join the Catholic Church, and they wish to welcome you as a baptised and confirmed member, you have the right not to have that interfered with."
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27d ago
I mean, even just a year or two ago when Monkeypox was spreading, the humble suggestion that gays stop having giant unprotected orgies with multiple strangers was viewed as a demand that "gays stop having sex". There seems to exist a certain vocal segment that gets their way that any insistence that gays use protection or practice monogamy is akin to trying to get them to stop being gay.
My interpretation of it was more that, if you decouple 'advice given to gay people' from 'advice given to straight people', those who harbour animus against gay people could then tell gay people to abstain from any sex, even in a monogamous marriage, while placing no burdens on straight people, and there would be little to no motivation to ever lift that injunction. One could avoid this by imposing the same interventions on straight people, and not lifting them on straight people until one lifts them on gay people.
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27d ago
That said, do you mind elaborating?
Not at all. I believe everyone is entitled to my opinion.
If bringing the mind in line with the body is so costly (in the sense that it's better to do the opposite), why is it ok to force the majority of the population to see trans women as women "in every way that matters outside the bedroom and doctor's office"?
It's not about the majority's minds, per se, so much as their manners: what Tim Walz described as:
We have a Golden Rule: Mind your own damn business!
There are physical differences between the sexes; we can change some of them, but have yet to discover how to change others; measuring and sorting along these physical attributes can sometimes place trans individuals in the category opposite their identity. However, these physical attributes should not be relevant outside a narrow set of circumstances.
Also, why those particular exclusions
They are the most obvious instances where someone's genitals might matter.
how do you argue against people who think even those are also a sign of bigotry?
WRT bedrooms, I again refer to Mr Walz' Golden Rule. If I am not, personally, dating someone, than the difference between their being attracted to/not attracted to 'people born with female/male/ambiguous parts', 'people identifying as women/men/non-binary', and 'people who look feminine/masculine/androgynous' is very low on the list of my concerns.
WRT the field of medicine, my recommendation is to Replace The Symbol With The Substance. If Alice:
- has XY chromosomes
- was born with a penis
- currently has a vulva
- is not capable of reproduction
- has a female-typical hormone profile
- uses she/her pronouns
&c., &c., list that on her medical chart. Asking if she is 'really' a man or a woman is, at that point, superfluous. (Cf. "A Human's Guide to Words", E. Yudkowsky, February 2008)
Or a ten-dollar pair of scissors. (Cf. the Hair Dryer Incident, Slate Star Codex, November 2014.)
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