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What I'm saying is that making a Nazi salute during a speech is a little like running a red light while driving. Sure, doing it accidentally is better than doing on purpose, but you should be more careful. One of the reasons you should avoid it as much as possible is precisely because it is easy to take out of context.

There's room to debate how annoyed we should get at people accidentally making the gesture - I feel much more strongly that deliberately making the gesture is clearly wrong, and that most people understand why.

People don't get mad at Nazi salutes because they think the salute itself is bad. Likewise the swastika isn't arcane magic that can cause harm, and Hugo Boss is just a fashion brand. Most left wingers have few issues with the modern German state and it's language. Nobody is confused about this.

Context matters. When you're a politician (or other political public figure) giving a speech , making an unironic Nazi salute communicates a message. And that message is typically "I support the ideals of the Nazi Party".

If you don't want to send that message don't make a Nazi salute. Not even accidentally. You should know what it represents.

Essentially nobody is confused about if the Nazis are bad. I'll grant that there's arguments to made about exactly how bad they where, or how also bad the Allies were, but that doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't use Nazi symbolism if you don't want to be accused of being a Nazi.

I have always felt that roads should exclusively be for motorized vehicles. On this you and most cycling advocates agree

And sidewalks should exclusively be for human powered means of locomotion (including cycles). You realize cyclists can travel 30km/hr+ right? That's actually quite dangerous to pedestrians, even if collisions wouldn't usually be fatal.

Why limit ourselves to roads or sidewalks, nothing in-between? Bike lanes/cycle tracks are that in-between, suitable for bicycles or low powered electric vehicles (scooters, e-bikes, etc). Sure, sometimes they're not suitable or worth the expense, but in many situations, like dense urban cores where motorized vehicular traffic already moves very slowly, and sidewalks are congested, having some space dedicated for bicycles works out great.

Why was stopping, walking the bike around the dumpster, and then getting back on not an option? The picture is posted below, and clearly this was an option, and would have been the safest option in this situation.

However, blockages in bike lanes, whether due to construction, parking violations, or poorly maintained lanes means that cyclists encounter obstacles like this extremely frequently. Getting on and off a bicycle, losing all momentum is enough of a pain in the ass that basically nobody does it, preferring to take the small, yet significant risk of merging into traffic to save time and effort. It's similar to the risk that basically all drivers take on when they speed slightly, or roll through stop signs.

The difference is that in the cyclists case, the risk is almost entirely taken on personally, as bikes are fragile. When motorists take on those risks, it often disproportionally endangers the pedestrians and cyclists nearby.

Maybe the cyclist made a mistake, maybe they didn't. But everybody on the road makes mistakes, and road design should take this into account. Cycling advocates want to improve road design so that mistakes are much less deadly for cyclists, and in many cases these design changes don't significantly impact motorized vehicle traffic.

As for "where does this dumpster go":

  • the dumpster was there illegally already - the company ended up being fined (a trivial amount, but still it was illegal)
  • the sidewalk perhaps, slowing pedestrian traffic
  • the current location, but with temporary barriers protecting the bike lane
  • the current location, but with signs instructing cyclists to merge, and motorists to "share the lane" (common practice in Toronto)