satanistgoblin
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satanistgoblin
1yr ago
They couldn't spare troops to guard them and wanted them to go on the offensive. Don't know how many.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
They must have hoped to pass it off as an Egyptian attack, I guess.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
They wanted to conceal that they were executing POWs and Liberty was a surveillance ship. Also, there is a possible false flag angle (remember the Lavon affair?).
'But Sir, It’s an American Ship.'
'Never Mind, Hit Her!'
https://www.usslibertyveterans.blog/but-sir-its-an-american-ship-never-mind-hit-her-when-israel-attacked-uss-liberty-annotated/
I don't mean that all conservatives do it, but that it's mostly conservatives doing that and that it's a mindless cliche.
Why would I want to smear all conservatives? I'm not a leftwinger.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
Nope, my point is that actual allies who fought on the same side as US and have common defence obligations are obviously greater allies than Israel.
Israel killed a bunch of american soldiers and mainstream conservatives still mindlessly repeat about how Israel is "our greatest ally" despite the fact that it's not in NATO and hasn't sent troops to Korea/Vietnam/Afghanistan/Iraq unlike actual US allies. It should matter, but it clearly doesn't matter to you or them.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
Plus, Israel is a US ally
That's like saying that Cordyceps is the ant's ally.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
Everything to the left of Ayn Rand is socialist, none of you are free of sin socialism. Government intervention in economy create distortions which create demand for further interventions to adress (thesis of "Road to serfdom").
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
Yup, that's why two party system is terrible.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
Hamas didn't even exist when Palestinian lands were taken by force in 1948 for example.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
Genocide isn't necessary, israelis could leave (unlike the palestinians). The western position is that Ukraine shouldn't give up an inch of territory they do not currently control, so why should palestinians?
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
"took Hamas's word for it"
Come on, if a particular building is bombed in Gaza nowadays I wouldn't need anyone's word to think it 99% likely that Israel did it, because Israel is definitely bombing other buildings there in retalion for the Hamas attacks.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
"Would do it" doesn't equal "did do it". For example, Saddam's soldiers did all kinds of messed up stuff, but Nayrah's testimony about babies taken from incubators was still made up.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
They have a lot of more substantial grievences.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
Ah, the "they hate us for our freedom" canard.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
People who find a moral equivalence between thugs entering a peaceful village and killing everyone in the streets and in their homes, women, the elderly and children, and the army bombing terrorist targets in dense urban environment and, despite considerable efforts to avoid it, killing civilians in the process, are scum
Israelis totally did do massacres of civilians and terrorism way back when, did they moraly improve or do they just no longer need such crude desperate measures? Who knows.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
Russia was your enemy for no good reason at all back when Siryan civil war mess started.
American support for Israel was one of key reasons for 9/11 as cited by the organisers.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
I wasn't suggesting that, just gesturing at the depraved thinking at work in that country (Hamas is worse, inb4 someone accuses me of excusing them).
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
Their enemies are your enemies primarily because you back them. It's circular reasonig, basically.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
Israel's ambassador to UK just invoked firebombing of Dresden as a justification, that makes me think they would absolutely blow up a hospital.
That was premised on escalation, on them having to fight Lebanon, Syria and Iran at the same time.
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
Ben Shapiro says that it's very important that America provide material aid to Israel, otherwise nukes may start flying. https://twitter.com/restoreorderusa/status/1712954326652424658
satanistgoblin
1yr ago
In any case, you can find a lot of non-Jewish conservative authors and outlets who are supporting Israel.
I never said otherwise.
Weirdly, a bunch of American protestants were bamboozled into believing that they have to support Israel and enable them to rebuild the temple so Jesus can return, maybe start the rapture or something. Bizarre.
Afaik most of the survivors think that's what happened. You can suggest a better motive if you want, but these counterfactuals don't prove that they really thought it was an egyptian ship.
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