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Would you mind including some more commentary or analysis of your own?
I mean, it is something we consider. That’s how PA was able to find its registration-dumpers, how audits like the Cyber Ninjas worked, etc.
I’m sure there are holes, since states and counties have a lot of leeway, but keeping a paper trail and sealing containers are pretty universal. The federal best practices can be found here.
I get the impression that partisanship has led skeptics to think it’s the Wild West out there. In practice, there’s already a bunch of boring procedure that raises the cost of fraud.
Okay, so what do we get for it?
That’s like demanding a car ban because you enjoy biking. Directional agreement is not a blank check.
Short answer: Twitter delenda est.
Direct comparison between Trump and Hitler is silly, which is why even partisan outlets are resisting the urge. What they’re doing instead is quoting the individuals who are drawing those comparisons. The most prominent ones appear to be a state senator and Hillary Clinton. Higher-ups, such as the actual Kamala campaign, prefer to call him a fascist, which is much more defensible. “Hitler” is shorthand for “charismatic fascist,” so our high-heat, low-light excuse for Discourse uses it.
But since you want the steelman, I guess…
Recently, I’ve seen Trump supporters encouraging others to “take him seriously, not literally.” If one applies that standard, why argue over details? He’s obviously a populist with a strong sense of national character. He encourages modern forms of autarky and is skeptical of international cooperation. His supporters deserve to be rewarded and pardoned and his enemies ought to be locked up. There’s the bit where he blames shadowy interest groups for any setbacks. He selects for a real cult of personality. And above all, he cheerfully bulldozes norms so long as he’s winning.
Those are really the big ones. Drain the swamp. Lock her up. Stop the steal. I just want to find 11,780 votes](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript). Anything to get results.
So when you’ve got a charismatic populist with a dedicated base desperate to recover the glories of a bygone era, and he keeps hinting that maybe they can suspend normal procedure just this once, for a good cause…maybe you take that seriously.
Your link seems to be broken.
Who cares?
No, seriously. If you’re going to drop Twitter/substack links, I’m going to have to ask you to put some more effort in. Talk about why you care, why others should care, your reasoning, your theories.
Who knows what Athens would have done if they didn’t have CCTV?
More seriously, this is a problem with scaling. The peak voting-eligible population of ancient Athens was probably under 60,000. That’s around half the eligible voters in modern Athens, GA. You need a solution that still works at 2,500x the size.
So we do implement most of those features. Physical, printed ballots. Adversarial counting. Cameras. Even the states which hate requiring ID use some form of proof.
The big ones we’re missing are transparent boxes/individual envelopes and a full voting holiday. Sure, I’m in favor of both. I’m even fine with photo ID requirements. But they aren’t free, and I’d argue that they wouldn’t actually reduce the amount of bitching that goes on after an election. Trump and people like him will seize on the counting, the certification, any possible vector for sowing doubt. They have already baked into their worldview a far-reaching conspiracy against him, personally. That’s license to doubt even the most secure process.
Eh, you should see some of the stuff we did contain. Your brand of polite criticism is far from the most difficult thing about this place.
Oh, shit. More info here. I think the editorial spin is minimizing it, but there's clearly something going on.
The officials said one or two organizations that conducted registration drives in the county in recent months were responsible for the applications. They did not name the organizations.
Huh. So these are known groups, going to some effort to create fake registrations. That's how they have a lead on informing specific counties. Someone had better go to jail.
What's their angle? Are they getting paid by headcount, maybe? Because it does seem difficult to convert these into fake votes.
Nope.
You know, I was kind of expecting to be criticized for harshness.
I’m saying that, if the race is close enough, “someone burned two ballot boxes of votes” is fuel for a recount. Or whatever court remedy is allowed. It’s provable in a way that 2020 allegations weren’t.
There’s literally nothing innovative about arson. In related news, my parents went to see Conclave last week.
I disagree that a couple hundred votes, lost in a fire or flood, would sway the election. Too well-documented, I think. In the inevitable court case, you’d actually be able to point to the abuse, and…hmm. I suppose I don’t know what the remedy would be. Runoff? Cage fight?
That would be awesome. We’ve already seen the first wave of augmented senses with proximity radars and, arguably, the backup camera. Stuff like the blind spot indicators. Use those for a bit and it’s unpleasant to go back.
I suspect that display technology is part of this holdup. We’ve certainly tried, and then sort of gave up in the early 2000s. Maybe we’re due for a comeback.
What do you mean by “plausible?”
Tariffs are a way to incentivize something other than pure efficiency. Pay more, but get it made at home. The question is how much more, and what you’re getting instead. In a great-power conflict, that’s supposed to be security.
Trump’s narrative, where bringing manufacturing back home will make it better overall, probably isn’t going to pan out.
I, uh, think there’s some other stuff going on in Xinjiang.
“Replacing” you? It’s a traditional complaint, even.
I guess I wouldn’t mind “supplementing,” either. It’s more accurate.
If the seven-headed beast makes an appearance, we can say the plural community has gone too far.
Maybe you shouldn’t get your news from the Dreaded Jim?
I’d take the other end of those bets at favorable odds. Slight chance of Trump doing time, I guess, but it’s not like we’d ever agree on whether it was deserved.
If a “real” October surprise felt likely, it wouldn’t be a surprise, would it?
I laugh at the idea this is a coordinated blitz, though. It’s the most natural place for prospiracy: thousands of journalists desperate for something, anything to say about the Bad Man. One of them apparently asked him about the remarks in an interview, and it was off to the races. Even then, the results are blog columns and one-paragraph reports. It’s about as weak as it gets, and I’m confident you could find equivalent surges every month. Trump just has that effect.
Unlike the other parties, which are all pure as snow?
Well…yeah.
I was pretty tired when I wrote that, but what I really wanted to convey was the simplicity of motive. Especially on forums like this, people love to concoct their elaborate theories, detailed strategic planning over how the outgroup could possibly come to their conclusion—and no, they just think he’s a tool.
It’s like watching a carjacking and writing an essay about the perp’s home life.
Someone once said Republicans like Trump because he hurts the right people. There’s a lot of Democrats who just want the right guy to get hurt. It sucks.
Who gets out of bed in the morning and thinks, “hmm, I need to throw the activists off the trail, time to start a phenomenon”? The Clintons? Pelosi?
It’s a few paragraphs down the Fox 43 article.
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