froggie
7d ago
i still dont get why people think VAT is comparable to tariffs? is trumps idea of "fair" that we keep taxing our own products with VAT but make an exception american imports?
froggie
16d ago
Trump is is talking about annexing 3 other countries, tariffing everything at 25% etc. and most people think he is bluffing (and he probably is) so this could be another bluff.
I was a bit surprised this term that he seems to be just doing so much stuff, almost like he started taking his promises seriously, but keep in mind that banning trans people from sports or cancelling DEI programs is nothing comparable to ethnic cleansing of the gazans, even if some people want to call it a literal genocide nobody is dying over a lack of DEI.
So I still would not bet on him doing anything with a huge impact on people's lives.
froggie
16d ago
Yeah the ruling coalition isn't based on numbers alone, parties form coalitions for being ideologically similar.
froggie
16d ago
The other parties weren't willing to work with the AfD, finding them too detestable.
This is all virtue signaling, it was very easy to say that while AfD was so small that cooperation wasn't needed. Since they are still growing, the CDU did cooperate recently with the AfD to pass some anti illegal immigration laws.
froggie
16d ago
I think parliamentary democracies were made to solve this problem.
Instead of choosing 1 person to dictate so much despite barely winning with 51% of the votes (a landslide by american standards), you can have an unlimited number of parties that can represent more than 2 ideologies, and in order to form a ruling coalition they have to make compromises with each other.
This is nice also because you don't have to vote "for the lesser evil", if you ideology isn't a perfect fit for any of the current parties it is a common practice to just create a new party, AfD for example was funded in 2013 and it is making tons of headlines after only ~10 years.
froggie
16d ago
Arguing that the US should take over and rebuild with direct management counters that, because the pro-Hamas people suddenly have to argue that Gaza is fully capable of running itself.
Would hold true if "taking over and rebuilding" didn't involve kicking out palestinians.
froggie
17d ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't terrorism strictly about using violence to cause political change? There's no way fentanyl selling can count as terrorism, can Trudeau just decide that any organisation he wants is terrorist?
froggie
19d ago
Well they explicitly say heatmaps were made from the size of the moral circle, and I don't see any other heatmap besides that one.
Heatmaps indicating highest moral allocation by ideology, Study 3a.
Sounds vague enough that I don't think i have to change my interpretation, even if the wording kinda sound like they're talking about the points allocation.
Every liberal I know would in fact not choose a tree over their family, even if they care about the environment, if your interpretation is right that goes against what you can just see with the naked eye.
Liberals are not these caricatures that "care about rocks more than about their families", please ask any liberal you know if they care less about someone the more closely related they are to them, if they would rather cut a tree or a family member, they are not actually insane.
froggie
19d ago
In addition, participants also completed a more qualitative measure of the extent of their moral circle by clicking on rungs extending outward and representing the same categories as in the moral allocation task (see Supplementary Note 4). This measure allowed us to create heatmaps to visualize the relative sizes of liberals’ and conservatives’ moral circles.
Does this not say that heatmaps were made out of what they used in supplementary note 4?
froggie
19d ago
Yes thanks for the sources, I didn't know that allocating points was part of the study, but apparently that part was irrelevant to the heatmap.
Please click on a number that depicts the extent of your moral circle. Note that in this scale, the number you select includes the numbers below it as well. So, if you select 10 (all mammals), you are also including numbers 1-9 (up to 'all people on all continents') in your moral circle.
froggie
19d ago
No, as far as I remember it was not about assigning points, it was about choosing the size of the moral circle, if you look at the graph each circle has the previous smaller circle included within, that imagery is intentional, that is how the participants were meant to interpret it, when they choose animals (big circle) the humans (small circle) is included within.
froggie
19d ago
Ukraine isn't in the EU or in NATO, tons of european voters dislike Ukraine (illegally flooding markets with their cheaper grain, bombing the oil pipeline with Russia, covering up their own accidents that killed some polish people and trying to blame it on russia) so the motivation to defend it isn't fully there.
froggie
19d ago
If tariffs are supposed to make you stronger because less access to foreign industries will force your own industry to grow stronger, maybe america should tariff trade between states? then each state will become an economic superpower, alone we are strong, together we are weak.
But enough sarcasm, I know there is one benefit to independence, it is that larger economies like China cant just pull the rug away from you (by using tariffs themselves) unless you cave into their demands, so tariffs based on how hostile the other government is make sense, tariffs based on "economic deficits" make no sense, and using it just to be hostile to smaller governments, might get you some concessions, but say goodbye to long term alliances.
froggie
19d ago
Best case he wants to get some symbolic concession in exchange for dropping the tariffs Canada already responded to Trump by increasing the funding for border control. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-announces-new-border-funding-after-trump-tariff-threat-2024-12-16/
We're past the best case scenario already.
froggie
19d ago
I want less Africans, not more.
froggie
19d ago
That jpeg is actually misleading, the original question listed a bunch of groups from closest to furthest away, from family to foreigners to animals to plants, and to choose the point where you no longer morally care.
The way it was set up, it is literally impossible to say you care about foreigners more than about the close ones, the assumption that literally everyone cares about their family more than about strangers, about human strangers more than animals and so on was just baked into the study.
So if anyone says that study proves democrats care more about animals than people, they are wrong.
froggie
19d ago
I looked it up, zakat is not charity, it is more like a tax that every muslim has to pay to help their communities, but there are some imams that actually believe in giving some of the zakat money to non-muslims in extreme poverty, and also as a means to "encourage" non-muslims to convert.
Actual charity is called "sadaqah" and there are no restrictions on it.
froggie
19d ago
All the mentions of communism feel shoehorned, critique it because its bad, not because somehow if you squint it kinda resembles communism slightly even though credit scores could never exist without capitalism.
froggie
2mo ago
wont UBI also counter this? if your welfare isnt tied to lying or living in poverty
froggie
4mo ago
shes a politician not a philosopher, its not her job to seek truth but to win votes and serve the people
you try to make it seem like because shes a woman she is less objective but trying to give voters what they want is the objectively right move in her position
froggie
4mo ago
anyone else annoyed by posts that start with some unrelated story like "i was cooking dinner when blah blah", its like reading cooking recipes online
i feel like our esteem for effort posting is why people pad their posts so much, to try to fit in when they dont actually have that much to say
froggie
8mo ago
I somehow find this sort of thing even more annoying than pure Trump bashing, because it's showing me that absolutely nothing will be enough for these people. They seem to think they're entitled to a purely leftist president who agrees with them on everything, and anything right of that makes him evil.
IMO people are entitled to their right to vote for someone they agree with, the main reason they cant is the 2 party system which is only shared by America, Australia, and 30 or so 3rd world countries.
What if you were to look at a chinese person calling people annoying for thinking they are entitled to a president from outside the one party. You might think its sad that the chronic lack of democracy has become so normalised they think you're annoying for caring about it, so don't normalise the 2 party system either. Someday you might end up disagreeing with both parties and have no choice but to join the crowd you are so dismissive of today.
the people saying they're not voting for Biden in 2024 were the exact same people
"these are the exact same people that said x" has never been spoken truthfully in my experience, if you want to prove there exists one specific person who is a hypocrite go after them, compile tweets proving hypocrisy and repost it whenever they make a post.
If you go after a group of people made up of roughly half the entire population of america you will obviously see statements that contradict each other.
Imagine being told "you are all the same, you are all hypocrites" from someone outside the group, maybe some people here are hypocrites, but you don't want to be painted with the same brush.
Maybe the people I see making these statements are just virtue signaling "look I'm so progressive, even the Democratic president isn't progressive enough for me". Or maybe not.
Or maybe they are allowed to change their mind, new things happen, they gather more information, they use the bayesian algorithm to generate new opinions. Up until the Israel/Palestine situation the lesser of the 2 evils was an argument about how Biden might be senile and have wishy washy convictions, but at least he is not killing people, now people believe he is killing people, so he is no longer a 'lesser' evil.
i dont see o3 on there just o3 mini, i thought o3 would still be first place? or is this about commercially available ones only?
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