YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
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YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
1hr ago
I suppose I have a hard time believing someone is just unlikeable for no reason. It's almost always a personality quirk and the overriding question is how much is that quirk load-bearing on their identity such that if it caused problems, and they were asked if they could change it or at least hide it, would they? After some thought I don't think I've never met someone that was just unlikeable for no reason at all.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
5hr ago
he engagement baits
First time? Pretty much every moderately successful influencer is posting 80% engagement bait in some form. Youtube, Tiktok, Reels, Substack, whatever. Engagement is an influencer's bread and butter and they give zero shits for how much they torch the commons as long as they get theirs.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
5hr ago
Have you stopped beating your wife?
No she likes it and feels I don't beat her enough as it is. It's truly exhaustive playing the performative male gender role.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
5hr ago
Now change her age to 18, talk about nightmare fuel as now there are thinly veiled pedo accusations and insinuations that you manipulated this fragile young mind with your degenerate cis-normative white heterosexuality.
Mentally unstable women with no outside social experience are prone to misinterpreting things. I have no desire to include landmines within a group of nerdy autistic adults.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
6hr ago
"how dare she make us feel bad about making her feel bad!"
Such an uncharitable take, how about instead "She's uncomfortable, this is clearly an example of why sheltered 18 year old's probably shouldn't hang out with working adults twice their age"
I don't think I feel bad about her feeling bad.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
7hr ago
Yeah, as a private friends group they don't have to invite her to anything.
It was posted in the private discord that she was apart of. It's not really possible without more effort to restrict what messages people can see/respond to. The biggest error was that she was invited to the private group rather than kept in the public meetup group. The guy running this private group acted irresponsibly but that's in line with his character, it's just never blown up on him like this.
Does giving someone a ride in your car imply sex now or something? Sounds like a terrible subculture
I love the female intuition to immediately pathologize everything. Why don't you go read this and maybe consider that people feel innately uncomfortable about different things than you as a result of their upbringing. Show some of that legendary "empathetic gender" behavior.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
10hr ago
envy
Would you envy a person stepping on rakes in the rake factory. Shockingly, mentally unstable young women are a proverbial landmine in progressive social milieus. Vulnerable victims whose voice yet rings the loudest, judging all and held to no epistemic standards of evidence. A repudiation it seems from the good conservative milieu where young women are seen, not heard. We ever move in cycles, rejecting that which scarred our generation in its formative years
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
10hr ago
Regardless, it is a rite of passage in the traditional anthropological sense. Not having passed through the tribe’s rituals denotes one as unable to participate in groups with post ritual behavior. The divergence between when a tribe administers its rites is left to the tribe.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
13hr ago
We are about 40% women, just 40% Urban LGTBQ+ approving women, where a gay sex joke or two is not considered weird. I would also object to the categorization that there is a ton of locker-room talk, a joke is occasionally made, but classifying it as a bunch of 30+ year old men relieving our glory days is a bit too much of the "sisterhood can do no wrong"
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
14hr ago
How much heavy lifting is the autism doing?
Not a ton, I'm on the spectrum, my GFs on the spectrum(it was her house) there are a couple of others on the spectrum there. Obviously there is a thing as too much autism, but if it plays any role its that it's cofounded with age in a way to makes it so that time and interaction with neurotypicals hasn't sanded off the worst tism impulses.
Gotta get the gals at peak fertility and attractiveness to men (sixteen to twenty) before they age out into wizened hags of thirty, while the guys are only hitting their prime at thirty-five!
I personally find this weird AF. Some age differences are fine, like 2-5 years but I'd draw the line there. People in different stages of their lives lead to risk and potentially tumultuous relationsips.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
14hr ago
that the group members are (almost) all secular, college-educated urbanites, who spent their childhoods in age-segregated classrooms and extracurriculars, left home at 18, spent the next 4–6 years in the exclusive company of fellow 18–24 year olds, and continued to spend time exclusively with friends and coworkers their own age over the next decade.
90% correct, I think once you hit 26-30+ it starts being more common to interact and hangout with 40 and 50 year olds in your extended friend groups if they are at all based around hobbies. It notably never goes the other way as it has in this case.
The flipside also tracks with me as an understanding of the other bubble, one that might be more common among the conservative leaning folks here and why they find my bubble so weird.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
14hr ago
Not in America
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
1d ago
I'm not going to be able to change this person's woke ideologue-ness because they are already woke af. While this group is not woke its also not anti-woke. I want to spare this person additional mental anguish because clearly they already have a lot of it.
Should she learn things from retarded woke ideology, instead?
She already has considering she goes by They/Them, uses a male name, has blue hair, dresses like a woman, and has two lesbian mothers as parents.
There's no saving that, and I'm not inclined to try.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
1d ago
Probably the most relevant response, thanks.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
1d ago
I think the response is that she absolutely can play games with people, but should probably keep doing so in public places in public groups. Hopefully with people her own age.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
1d ago
A book club just feels like a different sort of community that lends itself to cross generational community. Private game groups meeting at someone's house just feels closer to a local friend group.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
1d ago
It's healthy for teenagers to hang around adults
Is it? It sounds like a recipe for disaster and abuse.
see how they behave instead of going off of movies about frathouses.
I don't care how they learn to behave and frathouses that have 32 year olds in them are creepy. If a 17 year old wants to hang out with 21 years olds I think that is significantly less creepy than hanging out with 32 year olds.
I was a teen and ran the grill when my dad's friends were watching football
You were related to your father and it was his friends. Very different dynamic.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
1d ago
an autistic 30-year-old guy?
There's plenty of them in the group, and I have a general rule around including them as long as they take advice on when they are being anti-social spergs that people don't want to hang out with. The script to kick anyone out these days is pretty much: "You are making people uncomfortable about some concrete things, and we've talked about about it and you seem pretty unrepentant and unwilling to change so I think the majority of other people don't want to hang out with you." Unfortunately thats hard to apply here because the things that are making people uncomfortable, ie being an awkward 18 year old in a group of 32 year olds isn't something they can change.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
1d ago
Also: what is it about Blood on the Clocktower that seems to really suck in a certain kind of nerd? I see a fair amount of it these days.
Honestly the wider BotC community is pretty toxic and ass. Super oriented around parasocial relationships with streamers and minor celebrities. Half the people you see at Cons are the sort of weird af people who should be solved into lockers. I disagreed with that thread in the culture war section about stopping your kids from being weird, but then I remembered the other BotC people I meet at cons and I shuddered.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
1d ago
Wouldn't you tell any creepy new comers to knock it off? Why should it matter if they're creepy towards person A vs person B?
I'm not running a group to police other people. But I imagine we'll cross that bridge when it comes up.
No young people could join Ham radio clubs if they adhered to your standards. Or become masons. I hear VFW halls also run really old. And DAR meetings!
Not my problem and not one I am trying to solve. Those groups can run their own standards and solve their own problems.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
1d ago
Scandalous! Their brains haven't even fully developed yet.
Bruh nobody thinks this. Absolute brainrot thought, touch grass already. 23-24 year olds are fine. They have a job/gradschool, can drink, pretty much not different than a proper adult of 30 years.
She's young enough to be your younger sister or cousin, you sick fucks!
Literally a month ago she was 17... So yes I guess if you like barely legal "age is just a number" mentalities then go off queen!
If it is her age
I guess I just find it weird. The age difference is just too wide. Something about pre-21 year olds when you are in your 30s. It's interesting what a bubble I exist in. My local friends also find it odd but here everyone thinks the reverse is odd.
YoungAchamian
We walk conditioned ground and name our folly civilization.
1d ago
What's likely going to happen is that nobody wants to pick her up for events. I suppose that's a natural solution.
Idk who stated the obvious but someone once said that something like: "if you are good at something, and do it for fun, making it a business sucks all the fun out of it, and eventually you do it for the money" (I suck at words) Sounds like the most common pipeline. People write interesting things, collect a following, then start doing it for a buck, and since it's now about audience metrics and engagement, it forces them to sell-out.
It's sad but common enough that I guess I just cynically assume most folks with online followings are somewhere in that pipeline and it's just about where.
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