Tomato
1yr ago
Why is “Israelis don’t have a right to continue to settle on Palestinian land and they should give it back” so hard to say?
Tomato
1yr ago
What slogan do you want someone who doesn’t want the Israeli state to kill or displace Palestinians to use?
Tomato
1yr ago
My guess is they don’t understand the implications of the second part and say it because it’s catchy and rhymes with the first part. I don’t think it’s worth taking too seriously.
To be honest, I’d be more wary of pro-Israel folks taking the surely unobjectionable first part and trying to elide any calls for a free Palestine with genocide.
Tomato
1yr ago
To be clear, what happened was: “interested party A claims their enemies committed particularly heinous act, source: trust me bro” and now you’re calling people who would like better evidence conspiracy theorists? Weird inversion of burden of proof particularly on a site like this.
Tomato
1yr ago
No? I think that a claim circulating earlier that Hamas beheaded 40 babies was dubious. You know it’s possible to think that Hamas does bad things without uncritically accepting every claim that’s made by Hamas’s foes, right?
Tomato
1yr ago
Why make a doubtful unverified story the first example of atrocities you cite?
Tomato
1yr ago
I said the same thing on an earlier thread and someone likened me to Alex Jones, lol.
Tomato
1yr ago
Did they actually produce the 40 beheaded baby corpses? I may have missed it in which case I retract my comment.
Tomato
1yr ago
Did they actually produce the 40 beheaded baby corpses? Maybe they turned up since the above article was written and I missed it.
Tomato
1yr ago
I guess this got removed from the news cycle once it became obviously absurd: https://theintercept.com/2023/10/11/israel-hamas-disinformation/
Tomato
1yr ago
Israel has the benefit of a working government and strong institutions, which allows them to have an army to do their dirty work and leave the hands of the civilian settlers who enjoy the fruits of conquest and polite, institutionalized slaughter without blood directly on their hands.
Tomato
1yr ago
Why does Israel get the “they’re not stupid enough to do something like this” benefit of the doubt while everyone was parroting the 40 beheaded babies or whatever that clearly insane story was?
Tomato
1yr ago
the Palestinians have no good plan for how they would materially improve the lives of their citizens of Israel suddenly disappeared
They want the dignity of not living under the heel of an entity they view as an evil oppressor. So what if that oppressor can give them more porn and plastic doo-dads to play with?
I think you’re completely missing the point here, and also of the Milton quotation. If Lucifer doesn’t strike you as intensely relatable in that quotation I don’t think you’re going to understand.
Tomato
1yr ago
“AI” doesn’t really seem like a thing we should care about getting better in and of itself. Rather if AI is getting better and AI matters at all, then things downstream of AI should get observably better. It’s kind of like “factories getting better,” we don’t really care about the new factories per se but how the factories’ getting better makes life better somehow.
The caveat to this is among people who are just into AI in the same way that lots of people are into movies, maybe they directly care (most people don’t.)
Tomato
1yr ago
Tomato
1yr ago
Pretty much everyone who works in quant finance occupies enough legal gray area to worry that they could all be shut down at any time and end up in court.
Can you elaborate on this? I know a bunch of people who work in quant finance and while it seems completely socially useless it also seems perfectly legally legitimate.
If Uber had failed their founder would have definitely gone to jail.
For what?
Poor fool tried to play the game of changing the world and got burned.
No, he stole a bunch of money and got caught.
Tomato
1yr ago
An important missing element in your description is that you need to be doing things that are hard but that you can actually succeed in. The "work hard" --> "achieve something you couldn't have without the hard work" cycle is important. Whether it's for literal basic survival or for some "surrogate" activity as he calls them seems a little bit less important to me.
A lot of the ennui plaguing people in modern society seems like it stems from everything either being trivially easy to get or completely unobtainable regardless of effort, so there's not much left that can fit into the power process. Technology has moved a lot of the "you have to work hard for it" things like food and shelter into the "trivially easy" category. We're left with "become a celebrity," "become a billionaire," etc., which require a ton of luck and grinding will only get you so far.
Tomato
1yr ago
The person in that convo is not interested in meeting up, full stop. I understand there's some very small probability of converting that convo to a hookup (your linked comment on conditional probabilities feels about right) but it just seems so not worth the effort. Even if that's the only match someone gets, and even if they're devoting 100% of their time to getting laid, their time is better spent fixing issues earlier up in the pipeline, like making themselves more desirable or finding where to meet more enthusiastic women, than being doomed to these endless demoralizing convos.
Tomato
1yr ago
I agree that the rational course of action is to not pursue potential partners who are less than enthusiastic. Good advice. For someone with options. From what I gather about how online dating works for men, that less-than-enthusiastic person might be the best chance a lonely guy on a month-long dryspell has. So he discards that good advice because he has to.
I think the right advice for people like this is to modify the strategy before they get to this point. For example, meet people some other way, make themselves more desirable for OLD, make their OLD profile better (people laugh at this but I've seen guys' profiles, they are often really bad but really improvable!), or just match with uglier women.
I would suggest that you should consider the possibility that you are an outlier but I suspect you know that already. Well done, you are very desirable.
I think I'm desirable to the women I get to that stage with, because a lot of filtering goes on to get there.
Tomato
1yr ago
I think probably the worst thing about the potential Australian law that kicked this convo off is that if implemented (and I sort of doubt it will be) it probably prevents a lot of necessary learning experiences to help you learn what is actual-mutual-flirting-everyone-is-having-a-good-coy-time and what is weird Andrew Tate rapey philosophy. But I don't think it's that hard. Women do obvious things like talk to you, make themselves available to spend time with you, touch you, kiss you, when they're interested. It's not a big mystery.
I've never seen any Tate stuff so I don't know what he says, but my data-less assumption is it's all tricks to get someone who is uninterested in you to fuck you, which is exactly the wrong, time-wasting approach.
Tomato
1yr ago
What's the complaint here? I've gone on hundreds of fun, successful dates with the following formula:
- Match
- Chat back and forth a couple texts (5 each, 10 if she seems shy)
- If the conversation doesn't feel like pulling teeth, suggest a meetup, otherwise let it die.
- If she enthusiastically joins in making plans, make them, otherwise let it die.
- Go on the date, if she cancels she wasn't that interested, and let it die unless she goes all out to reschedule.
For me (and I think for most guys) the real bottleneck is at (1) and (2). In my experience the journey from "decent convo" to "fucking" is extremely smooth sailing and if it's not then there's something broken (but likely fixable) in your approach, like trying to drag someone who isn't actually interested in you out on a date. Just because this woman is more interested in you than other women doesn't mean she's actually interested in you.
Tomato
1yr ago
Unironically this is a male skill issue thinking that communication is only literal and verbal. Men who are confused about this need to get good, not only for dating but because this is an important generalizable life skill.
Women don’t “play hard to get” by failing to make or keep plans. An interested women, shy or forward, slutty or chaste, of any culture or nationality, will make an effort to meet with you. A woman “playing hard to get” will let you in on the game. It’s mutual flirting and it will feel like that.
If she cancels once and doesn’t take the initiative to make a new plan, she’s not interested. Move on, don’t be pathetic.
Tomato
1yr ago
I straight up don’t believe that their 61.5% stat for straight men is capturing anything meaningful. I don’t understand how to reconcile that number with the claim about how dry it is for the average man on OLD. I’ve had thousands of OLD chats and hundreds of OLD dates and I’ve experienced “violence” only twice, both of which were completely harmless stalking incidents.
The trans theory is interesting but I think there aren’t enough trans women to cause that and for the most part the HSTS male attracted trans women aren’t very aggro.
It’s clearly not, and if the pro-Israeli side is so simplistic about it why even have a discussion? Do you really think “roll back the extralegal settlements in the West Bank” is the same as “exterminate the Jews in Israel?” Be serious.
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