ScottBeans
2yr ago
I read this article a couple days ago which claimed it was procedural:
As it happens, no jury ever found Jones liable for defamation, and no judge ever ruled on the merits of the claims or Jones’ counterclaims. He was found liable by default after failing to produce documents. A finding of ultimate liability is technically a permissible sanction for discovery recalcitrance (refusing to cooperate and produce documents) but it is a draconian one rarely imposed by judges. Suffice to say, the court — with an elected judge, mind you — was not a fan of Jones.
ScottBeans
2yr ago
I've been told that not caring about my race is a white privilege, which may be the case, but it's a privilege I think others deserve.
It's 2022 (not relevant but accurate) and I think it's time we stop treating race as a primary identity trait. This is a prescriptive position, not a descriptive one. It's not like I don't see race, but when I meet a black person I think of them primarily as a person and I would love for them to be able to do the same. I can't read minds, but I've definitely met black people whose entertainment is exclusively manga/anime so I imagine they either don't care about representation or don't identify themselves by race in a substantial way.
Worth noting also that plenty of white people do identify with their skin color, as evidenced by the regular expression of concerns of white extinction in this community or some of the replies upthread. I think those people should think of themselves differently as well, and I expect I have your agreement there.
Again, my apologies if I'm rambling. I am doing my best to go from thoughts to words here and having a rough time with it.
ScottBeans
2yr ago
My race is definitely not how I primarily define myself. As a redheaded white person, my hair color ranks higher than race- I've been told that not caring about my race is a white privilege, which may be the case, but it's a privilege I think others deserve. Both hair color and race fall far below my sex in terms of identity.
All of those physical characteristics are orders of magnitude less significant to my identity than my personality characteristics. I primarily define myself in a way that doesn't involve my body at all- I am the thing that lives in my brain, hosted by my body. I identify with characters that make the decisions I would. As a caveat, I expect that also carries cultural values as a piece of group identity baggage.
I'm rambling a bit, so I'll get back to the point. Maybe identifying primarily as a race is a bad thing that we should not actively pursue. From personal experience, I don't think you have to think that way. Race is something that divides us; humanity unites us.
ScottBeans
2yr ago
Like I said, I expected that to be a point of contention. I'm looking for a reason why.
Carol seems morally irrelevant here. Donald has no influence over Carol's actions, and Carol only provides information and resources. Suicidal depression is like torturing someone until they beg for death insofar as it is causing pain for someone until they want to die, which seems like a morally equivalent swap. Where do we disagree?
ScottBeans
2yr ago
If Alice tortured Bob until he begged for death, then handed him a gun, I would think we agree that Alice murdered Bob; you can stop reading now if we don't.
If Alice hired Carol to torture Bob, with Alice only handing him the gun, I'd think we still agree.
Taking a third leap: Carol, of her own accord, tortures Bob. She gives Donald a gun and tells him that Bob will kill himself if he gets it. Donald chooses to give Bob the gun.
We could then swap out Carol for an uncaring universe and torture for suicidal depression.
I expect we differ either on whether Donald is a murderer, or whether we can make the analogy, and I'm curious about your reasoning either way.
I'm not sure I'm picking up on the material difference there. Are you just saying the the red tribe only has power within private schools, or is there something more there? I ask because I typically read "red tribe doesn't get to do..." as implying a general social norm like "...because when the right does this, it's perceived as fascism" rather than, eg, "...because a democrat was elected instead."
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