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				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Even at an unknown, the known negatives of lockdown are known — and the end dates given by the authorities are known to be suspect.  If some government officials told you to lockdown for “two weeks” given what happened in 2020, very few people are going to believe that the lockdown is actually going to end within 6 months.  They also know that they won’t get much in the way of support when the lockdown forces people into unemployment and to close businesses, or schools or forbidding social gatherings.  And given that, and given the knock on effects of inflation and shortages, it’s going to be very very difficult to convince people to go along.  Covid wasn’t exactly a nothing burger but it also wasn’t something that justified the extreme measures taken to slow the spread.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
He’s head of a movement though.  And the movement is not a bunch of limp wristed hand wringing party loyalists.  They support Trump as the guy who’s there to basically clean house of the establishment and in their view restore the republic to its glory days.  They aren’t going to sit home and do nothing if that establishment doesn’t allow the changes to happen.  They’re at minimum going to attempt (probably successfully) to primary any republicans who don’t give them what they want.  And that’s if they’re nice.  We also have a fairly good sized militia contingent who might not be so nice about it.


Trump is perhaps irrelevant except as figurehead.  JD Vance is probably more aligned with the movement as I see it, and he’s definitely going to work to implement MAGA and Project 2025


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I would generally put anything law enforcement on a national level into Coast Guard (maybe rename it to state security or something) just for the ability to unify such things under a single legible chain of command.  As it sits, CIS, CBP, CG, ICE, TSA, and CG are all doing similar things and even at times crossing purposes without any cross communication possible.  A bunch of Migrants picked up by the CG would be handed over to BP or ICE, but why?  What’s the purpose of doing so when you can simply dump them off at a port in Mexico and shorten the process by days or weeks?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
They’ll be pacified (and this is true of much of trumps base) if the state allows them to actually win.  What you saw on Tuesday was a Revolution, and the people who won are going to insist on actually winning and not symbolic victories.  They want Trump to clean house, they want the deep state brought to heel, they want their agenda to happen.  And unlike the last time, the6 won’t take no for an answer.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Wouldn’t they also have to consider public compliance?  After 2020, I don’t think a lockdown is going to be allowed to happen.  You won’t get anyone to abide the lockdowns even if it’s Cordysepts of zombie apocalypse fame and mobilized the entire US military to enforce it.  It would be resisted and probably violently so.  The government would have to be insane to try it.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
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I’ll be honest in that most people are, in my view mostly consensus driven as far as actual morality goes.  Maybe one in a hundred would have something akin to actual morality— as in a code of morals that the person would risk any substantial losses to uphold a moral code.  It’s hidden in various ways behind arguments about the definitions of words — in this case fetus vs baby or child, though similar arguments were had in arguments about slavery and the definition of Negro and just how human those Negroes are, or perhaps in the Nazi era there were arguments about how much Jewish ancestry tainted a person as untermensch.  The arguments might well sound rational, but the purpose is not to define terms but to define away humanity.  Pragmatism often does the same, hiding cruelty behind the line items of a budget.  There is always money for more bombs, but rarely for school lunches.  We can afford prisons, but paying for schools is not pragmatic enough.


Morality is something we should strive to develop, but in 99% of cases, it is simply to be expected that people will go along with whatever the wider society wants to do.  The limits are not some strange scruples that people hold, but thei4 own aesthetic preferences.  As long as the nasty business is done in ways that you don’t have to actually watch the deed done let alone do it themselves.  Keep it within those bounds and you can get most of the public to be perfectly fine with anything the wider society wants to do.  You want to flatten a city, most people are perfectly fine with it, so long as the bombing isn’t on their screens.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
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The problem I have with social constructions is that virtually everything in society is at some level a social construct.  It’s meaningless as a claim.  Religion is a social construct and likewise contains legions of subgroups and deviations that make generalizations difficult.  And that also isn’t a good reason to say religion is unimportant.  Just because Southern Baptists, Anglicans, and Greek Orthodox Christians are all Christians, that doesn’t mean they’re identical or interchangeable in obvious ways.


Further, most of the ideas of what to do (generally deconstruct it) are silly.  Just because it’s no longer seen as anything other than a social construct doesn’t mean it doesn’t have something of a force of reality.  People are affected by social constructs, gender roles, social norms, and other social conventions because that’s how society actually works.  Even if we recognize that we drive on the right side of the road in the USA as “just a social construct” that doesn’t mean that change is desired.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Wellness Wednesday for November 6, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
But if that’s true, I’m still saying no to this one.  It cannot work if you’re going to be in her life socially. Sooner or later you will be at a party or something and the topic will come up.  Probably not Trump specifically, but some future iteration of the same.  And if she feels the need to be proactively politically correct online, she’s not going to allow you to be yourself in the presence of her friends no matter what her IRL friends think.  If she’s doing it for a career move, you’re going to either have to act the part or at least bite your tongue whenever politics comes up, or frankly most social issues.  And I don’t see tha5 working long term


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I think you misunderstood the issue.  The anti-vaxx portion of the base is very vocal and they won’t hesitate to primary a senator blocking RFK from the FDA.  O I’m not sure about Gabbord, simply because I don’t know much about her or the base’s opinion of her.  But the thing here is that the people putting Trump in office want to put those types of people in to secure an actual victory, and they’re not shy about insisting on the changes they fought for.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Demographics isn’t the only story here though.  Trump made serious headway with conservative Hispanic voters, which proves that the GOP doesn’t have to be a rump party for grumpy white men hrumpfing their way to demographic irrelevance.  The thing drawing people is that the conservatives are also the Christian Party and the party of such values as anti-abortion, pro-marriage, not wanting to trans your kids, teaching the Tem Commandments in schools, etc. all of which conservative Catholic Hispanics would be mostly in favor of.  The GOP is also the meritocratic and capitalist party in which hard work and private ownership of goods, businesses etc. are seen as the keys to prosperity.  This would also tend to draw the same demographics as they’re fleeing actual socialism, and they know exactly where it leads.  They’re not going to vote for socialism in their new country.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I agree with this.  What Trump did was more bring the issue into the open. Woke itself is fairly weak outside of whatever got snuck into HR.  That’s why it got so loud when Trump started challenges to it.  Once the stuff was open, people rejected it and the Woke couldn’t really stop it.  They could only make a lot of noise in an attempt to appear powerful.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
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I’ve always been suspicious of the narrative of “alienating the base” for the democrats (AKA not being woke or economically left enough), simply because most of those positions are not held by that many people.  The number of people out of nearly 400 million who would not put up with Kamala’s rather tepid support of Israel is probably not that big.  Likewise, the number of people turned off because her economic plans were too moderate seems fairly small.  Especially since the only viable alternative is a guy who’s basically running on “take everything the liberals like and destroy it as hard as we possibly can”.  The Trump answer to all of the positions these people are left of her on Trump is radically on the right on.  Trump is not shy about supporting Israel — he wants Israel to “finish the job (presumably of blowing up Gaza)”.  Trumps plan for student loans is “make the student pay back the loans”.  Trumps plan for the environment is “let’s pull out of all the agreements, drill baby drill, and deregulate so it’s easier to pollute without consequences”.  There just isn’t a way to punish the dems on this when the alternative is “not only get literally nothing you actually want, but lose things you have now.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I mean, I think that would produce partisan politics into it.  If I’m in a blue state, I want to detect Red fraud because it reduces my party’s power in the federal government.  If I’m in a red state, I want to detect Blue fraud.  So you can do that by putting a thumb on the scale based on the kinds of fraud that Reds or Blues are likely to do.  Reds might be prone to voter intimidation, so you make very strong rules aimed at preventing that.  Blues might stuff ballot boxes or have illegals vote or whatever, so make a rule about that.  But you don’t care about your own tribe’s fraud so you either ignore the problem or make it easier.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
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It turns out that that autopsy was wrong though.  Personally I think it was a complete lack of doing anything while claiming to be against it.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
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Did she not read the job description of a politician?  Public speaking is at least 2/3 of the job description.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
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For me personally, I’d want to see significant statistical anomalies— over or under performance, precincts in which apparently every single person voted for Kamala.  Places where more people voted than live in the district.  Stuff like that.  I think the statistics will be much more likely to show the fraud than anything else.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
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I think if anything that would be worse.  As it stands now, I’d minimally double the terms of most offices.  The trouble we have now is due to short terms.  The house barely gets settled in and knowing where the bathrooms are before it’s time to run for office.  And this kind of short term means that they really don’t have to do anything concrete to fix problems.  Worse, if you can make it looks like you’ve fixed something but the consequences of your bad fix don’t show up within two years, you’ll be gone before the negatives hit.  Even four years for president is pretty short.  By the time the economic impact of your policies hit the mainstream, you’ll be packing up to move out.


The second thing is that really, the short terms mean politics is taking up an extraordinary amount of the collective bandwidth of the public imagination.  Every two years we’re choosing new leaders, and that means 6+ months every two years of constant speculation, political ads, push polling, and punditry aimed at convincing the public to vote in a given way.  Worse, because fear and anger are the most effective means of inducing people to care about politics, we spend those six months learning to hate those who disagree with us politically.  You hate abortion?  You’re killing women, you sexist.  Oh, you’re pro abortion?  Baby killer!  And so on, through every major issue.  This tends to create tensions between people that shouldn’t exist.  And the wounds caused by this short cycle never completely heal.


In my opinion, politics, ideally would be such a minor part of life that they really don’t matter.  The general public is not served by a system so broken that it’s near top of mind what a political figure said or did today or any other day.  It’s not supposed to be that important, and frankly, if the government worked properly, you wouldn’t have to constantly baby sit it and change its nappies.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
That’s how elections run here.  It’s basically divided by districts carefully chosen to maximize the power of the party that runs the state, then you have the electoral college on top.  It’s set up so that 3 states basically pick the president.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
2024 is going to be “The Year Politics Went Full Retard” for me.  It’s just a level of crazy that I would not believe if it had been pitched as the new season of a political drama.  A candidate is nearly thrown off the ballot in CO?  The same guy convicted of several felonies?  And then his opponent is revealed to be unfit for office on live television?  Then the same candidate gets shot.  Then the opposition candidate drops out and is replaced without a vote.  Then the protests at the DNC over Israel.  Another Trump assassination.  Like WTF?  The crazy around 2024 is insane.  And of course the discourse itself — debates around transitions for middle school kids, why FEMA is slowing down aid in hurricane zones, some people are convinced of weather manipulation (which I did not have on my bingo card), claims of election fraud, it’s just wild.  And frankly exhausting tbh.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
What puts me off of UAPs and the idea that “they have proof” is just how little physical evidence of life, not intelligent life, just plain ordinary life, exists.  The best the Pro-UAP can do is a plausible fossilized bacteria sample found on Mars.  They have no ships, megastructures, signals, planets with obvious life-signs.  It doesn’t surprise me that people into UAPs are into non physical phenomena as they need some plausible way to explain how these things exist without leaving physical proof.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I’m expecting precisely nobody to accept the results.  Baked in.  One side believes the election was stolen, both believe the election is being stolen now (they differ on methods and direction, but in both cases, it’s against them).  One side believes the other is Nazis.  The other side believes that the others are communists.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Acceptable to the NPR listeners would be my definition.  The idea being that left leaning outlets work to put entertainers and podcasters and news outlets into a heretical works pile where they lose advertising and support and get relegated to right leaning channels and advertising for support.  Liberals generally shun such media so it hurts them to be branded as « not mainstream credible « .


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I think either group is going to be a problem.  However, some states have been calling up NG (https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/02/us/washington-oregon-nevada-national-guard-election/index.html) especially it appears in Blue states.  This seems rather telling, because it seems like the elites are expecting unrest in Blue areas not red ones.  This makes me suspect that they’re anticipating a Red win, as that’s what would cause trouble in Blue areas.  The Proud boys aren’t going to Portland.  But Antifa goes there all the time.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I’m not surprised in the least.  I’m not sure if it’s evolutionary psychology, but I tend to find that women have perfected the game of weaponizing the system against other people.  In this case, it’s animal laws, but it could be technical violations of any rules to force other people to give them what they want.  I’ve always somewhat assumed that it goes down to avenues of actual power.  Men have access to physical strength, technical knowledge, and the actual levers of power.  Women have limited access perhaps to the levers o& power.  Not as much as people think, because they are rarely the main decision makers on projects, in business, or in government.  So the best way for the median woman to get her way is to basically get a man to wield actual power for her.


Puritanical rule enforcement is a part of that.  It’s a way to create new offenses women can use to shame people into giving them what they want.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I think it has some use if you’re in a position to be doing long term planning either because the campaign is promising things that will help or harm your group, or because the change in regulations promised will affect a business project.  If Trump is going to end a subsidy for solar panels then maybe the fact that he’s way up in the polling would change how you do business.  Or maybe you’re trans and worried about your rights in your home state.  Or you’re gay and looking to adopt.  There are some people who for various reasons need to plan based on who wins in 2024.


For the vast majority of people, the winner of any election will only affect you on the margins.  It’s just human history.  Unless a regime was specifically looking to harm a group of people, for the most part, life goes on with very little change.  If you woke up tomorrow and you were under a Maoist dictatorship, unless you owned a big corporation or challenged the regime in some way, you could live very comfortably.  The basics of life don’t change that much.  There will still be jobs, schools, sporting events, and people will still get drunk on weekends.