Celestial-body-NOS
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Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
the last platform of theirs I looked at said to refer to the King James Bible rather than articulate specific policies.
So they're open-borders (Leviticus 19:34) gender-neutralist (Galatians 3:28) welfare liberals (Ezekiel 16:49)?
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
So you suggest we invoke Hanlon's Razor?
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
There are many, many ways to do that. You could restrict it to people who pay the poll tax, or to those who own property, or those who are married with children, or only people who have been in the country for twenty-one years, or only people who have been resident of the state for twenty-one years, or...or...or... You can read history and come up with your own way, but limiting who is allowed to vote is a normal suggestion and has been implemented in some form everywhere voting occurs.
And whichever criterion you choose, wherever the interests of that group differ from its complement, the elected officials will then be incentivised to discount the latter in favour of the former.
This is not, to put it delicately, a recipe for a peaceful society.
Frankly I'd settle for paying people not to vote, as anyone who would rather have $100 than cast a vote shouldn't be voting anyway.
This runs up against the diminishing marginal utility of money. $100 means a lot more to someone of lesser means than it does to a billionaire.
Would you like to suggest a way, or were you thinking I wouldn't bite the bullet? Do you care about the differences, or are you just expressing disdain?
It was more of a Socratic method question; however, one could select a number of residents at random and pay them enough that they could devote themselves full-time to political issues....
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
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male heads of property owning households with children
That would result in a government which undervalues the well-being of
- wives
- households of very limited means
- people without children
where their interests conflict with those of well-off fathers.
Considering this acceptable under-mines one's standing to object to FOO attempting to reserve the vote to FOO, and steering the government to ignore the interests of BAR where they conflict with those of FOO.
The political process then becomes a game of musical-chairs where every group tries to grab the government before their enemies do.
Whichever groups end up losing this conflict then have less incentive, and reason, to regard the government as legitimate; and being unable to influence it peaceably, are more likely to attempt change through violence.
I would prefer that political violence be avoided.
I can therefore conclude that it would be wise to extend the vote to single people, wives, non-child-bearing husbands, and fathers without property.
assuming no evidence of treachery, criminality, or immorality
And how long would it take before 'supporting policies I don't like' became 'evidence of immorality'?
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
And how do you decide who those fewer voters should be?
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
That was not the case in the 1990s.
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
gay club
More of a "gay-people-shoudn't-be-under-constant-threat-of-violence-intended-to-force-them-back-into-the-closet" club, or a "shift-the-societal-response-to-gay-people-existing-from-violent-repression-to-minding-your-own-d*mn-business" club.
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
14 foot high bolsheviks
What about 14-foot-high Left-SRs?
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
some not-IVF but medical procedure
It was my understanding that the majority of these procedures are performed when a husband and wife have been trying and failing to conceive in the traditional manner....
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
hard coded male sensibilities
Can you elaborate on the meaning of this term, as you understand it?
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
idk how to strikethrough
Put a tilde before and after.
(tilde = ~)
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
· Edited 1mo ago
A War-of-Southern-Treason-era Unitedstatesian being both a leftist and a Democrat would be as incongruous an as a current-year Unitedstatesian being both a leftist and a Republican. (Also, Booth was a Know-Nothing, not a Democrat. The Know-Nothings were right-wing on their loudest issue (immigration) but also had some left-wing positions.)
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
[I] called him a leftist and a [D]emocrat
In 1865, the Democrats were the right-wing party.
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
Modest proposal: Automate the ports, but keep paying the longshore-men until they reach retirement age, and then just don't hire any more to replace them.
We'll get the efficiency benefits right away, the financial benefits over the next 47 years, but no-one will find themselves suddenly struggling to put food on their families.
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
Linda, 52, six years of experience; Louise, 52, hobby triathlon runner, six years of experience, applies for an admin position. Which do you pick, no other information?
If I can't get more information?
Heads, I hire Linda; tails, I hire Louise.
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
I am suspicious of a theory that happens to be embraced mostly by fat acceptance activists.
I am suspicious of any hypothesis which allows people to think their cruellest instincts justifiable.
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
A British citizen living in the US is substantially affected by political goings-on in the United States. Should [if RAND < 0.5 print "he" else print "she"] be entitled to vote in US elections?
(This isn't entirely intended as a 'gotcha' question, by the way. I can see the argument that people should vote where they live currently; I reject the notion that there are certain kinds of people who don't deserve any voice anywhere.)
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
Why do you think some people are able to lose weight, then?
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
Why do UK residents need to vote in Montana?
Because they're not British citizens and can not vote in British elections.
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
Do you think we're going to get to a world where elected officials say "HBD is true actually and that's why blacks underperform"[?]
I suppose that depends on how much progress we make in genetic engineering.
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
Maybe he was using a SEP field?
Celestial-body-NOS
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2mo ago
What if the Gros Michel banana specifically contained some protein that could have cured malaria
Like the Cinchona tree?
Celestial-body-NOS
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2mo ago
So you consider it fair for Bob, if he cannot swallow his pride, to be publicly humiliated, without any way of avoiding the situation beforehand, but not right for Alice, if she is incapable of swallowing her pride, to be expected to pursue a different career?
he can grumble about how “this is bullshit”
And, in your view, is it a violation of his rights for him to suffer any consequences for grumbling and complaining while complying?
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
2mo ago
And where will you stand when someone says that you, your wife, and your children deserve to have their interests less represented in society than those of another man, his wife, and his children?
Counter-example: domestic-abuse laws.
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