Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
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Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
22d ago
I'm not referring to
s/modal woman/modal man
but to
s/woman with xyz characteristics/man with same characteristics
.
In any case in which Alice and Adam, as individual people, not as representatives of womanhood and manhood, are identical in every way except their gender, and Bob and Bill are identical in every way except that Bob is attracted to women and Bill is attracted to men, and Alice and Bob have exactly the same feelings and commitment to each other (or lack thereof) as Adam and Bill, the relationship between Adam and Bill is immoral if and only if the relationship between Alice and Bob is immoral.
The genders are not the same
I'm not referring to 'the male gender' and 'the female gender', averaging over four billion people; I am referring to four hypothetical individuals.
If women are, on average, disproportionally FOO, and men, on average, disproportionally BAR, then, in the hypothetical, Alice is more BAR than most women and/or Adam is more FOO than most men.
Celestial-body-NOS
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23d ago
The one thing they cannot have a fetish for is 'homosexual behavior' I have been told online.
On the contrary, as a supporter since before it was popular of the rights of gay people, I believe that, if one condition is fulfilled, one can legitimately consider someone to have a fetish for 'homosexual behaviour'.
That condition is that one also consider heterosexual behaviour a fetish.
To me, 'equal rights for gay people' means that for a system of ethics to be valid, it must be invariant with regard to gender parity, i. e. the morality of an act or relationship is identical to that of an otherwise identical act or relationship, differing only in that the gender of one participant is reversed.
Celestial-body-NOS
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30d ago
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
· Edited 1mo ago
I think it started with the Thai cave incident.
As I remember it, they were talking about how their plan, training the children to use the diving equipment, was an extremely dangerous gamble. Mr Musk probably heard this and was trying to offer a safer solution. The chattering classes objected to Mr Musk not privileging social consensus over his own reason (many such cases!) and one of the divers told Mr Musk to 'take his publicity-stunt submarine and shove it up his', &c., &c. Mr Musk was probably hurt by the accusation that he was motivated by tribal status-seeking, rather than seeing a problem and trying to fix it; this led to him reaching for the nearest insult he could think of, invoking the widely known image of the Westerner taking advantage of lax enforcement of statutory-rape laws in less well-off nations.
It is my impression that this is when the Blue Tribe started aiming the Two Minutes' Hate at Elon Musk.
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
cannot afford to subsidize ventures that are not delivering the promised speeds or are not likely to meet program requirements
failed to demonstrate that it could deliver the promised service
So when are they cutting off the spigot to the cable companies?
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
I believe that inexpensive space-flight may actually be beneficial to the environment, insomuch as it allows us to re-locate endeavours with adverse ecological impacts outside the environment.
The long-term environmental damage caused by StarBase may very well be literally less than nothing!
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
· Edited 1mo ago
Must have threaded the needle between my loading the page and pressing 'Comment'!
I have removed the re-post and moved my comment to a reply to yours.
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
· Edited 1mo ago
EDIT: accidental post due to race condition.
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
please, dear international community, if you are going to have a treaty with a long and non-memorable name then sign it somewhere that isn't the Hague.
The Hague : international treaties :: Leonhard Euler : mathematics.
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
Goodhart's law strikes again....
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
the time to build nuclear was 30-40 years ago
The best time was 30-40 years ago. The second best time is now.
the only benefit is just to cover intermittency
"Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?"
There's also the land use issue. A 1.21 GW nuclear plant takes up a lot less land than 1.21 GW of solar farms or wind turbines.
there are plenty of alternatives for that as well
Unfortunately, the numbers don't add up for any of them.
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
It would depend on whether, in that time-line, Californians had massacred Cascadians.
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
Because the train driver will have PTSD for a lot longer than five years.
(There is also the fact that the protester is still a human being.)
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
Russia invaded Ukraine. They don’t invade The United States, they didn’t threaten to invade The United States.
Furthermore, if Russia were to have encountered no opposition in the forceful seizure of Ukraine, how long would it be before they went after the Baltics? Poland? Eventually we wouldn't be able to stand on the sidelines any more.
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
I don't recall any Serbian territory being annexed by the US or any other country. A territory becoming its own country is a different matter, as otherwise India and most of the countries in Africa would have to be considered illegitimate.
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
They should have moved Homer around. Show him working at a Savings & Loan, then a dot-com company, then a defence contractor, then FEMA, then an investment bank, then a cryptocurrency-company....
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
That analogy might work better if Mexico were trying to re-negotiate the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo at tank-point, or if Canada were aiming for a re-match of 1812.
However, as we do not currently face any remotely credible threat of armed invasion* at this time, our 'keeping the Stars-and-Stripes flying over El Paso and Detroit' program doesn't have anything left to do.
*No, people coming in looking to work for money is not the same thing as an invasion.
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
Would you wager your life on that? Your children's lives?
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
issues with long term storage of nuclear waste
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
Not one cent of it should benefit Israel or Ukraine until there are no more problems to solve here.
There's always a relevant xkcd....
Also, every bit of Ukrainian clay seized by Russia will undermine the post-WWII standard against wars of territorial expansion, which will almost certainly cause more problems here.
As for Israel, as long as the US, or nations in general, maintain border and immigration controls, the State of Israel must continue to exist as a haven for Jewish people persecuted in other countries. (If everyone had open borders, Israel might not be necessary because Jews unsafe in their homes could always go somewhere else, as occurred many times prior to the 20th century, and could have occurred in the counter-factual 1930s and 1940s absent the post-WWI implementation of modern passport and visa systems.)
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
That's not what I asked.
Aiden is going through puberty. While the other boys in his class are starting to notice girls, Aiden is noticing boys in the same way.
On Earth-764, 16M/16M is held to the same standards as 16M/16F.
On Earth-932, 16M/16M is regarded with the same vitriol as 55M/12M, and the former is only tolerated in sub-cultures which also tolerate the latter.
If you're trying to keep Aiden away from paedophiles, are you likely to have more success on Earth-764, or on Earth-932?
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
Sure, you can tell yourself that, but being actually gay wasn't a problem in the 90s or 2000s. It was faking manliness that was as far as high school kids were concerned.
I don't think they drew much of a distinction between those two things, or between any two non-heteronormative characteristics.
Admittedly, this may have varied between regions; some areas (the 'fly-over' states) would have been more hostile than Boston or San Francisco.
Of course, there is the overreaching issue of pederasty in the gay male community.
And if gay teenagers are shunned and rejected by the broader society, are they more likely, or less likely, to associate with that community?
Celestial-body-NOS
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1mo ago
And that's why platforms are supposed to 'articulate specific policies', rather than gesture at applause lights.
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 All human beings are equal, **even when they aren't.**
1mo ago
how can Congress pass laws that are good for all Americans when it's full of white men?
They can do so perfectly well when the interests of white men align with those of women and minorities; it is when they diverge that there is an issue.
Can an all-white Congress be trusted to forgo a bill that would result in +0.001 util/white person and -10,000 utils/black person?
point of limiting the vote to a cohort like the suggested one is to make sure all those voting are people of good character
There are many, many married fathers of bad character; forgiving indeed is the one who would not include at least one U. S. President in that category. There are also many women, single men, and childless husbands of far better character than the aforementioned married fathers.
The idea that male heads of households would vote against the interests of their wives is pretty cynical
Male heads of households would vote against the interests of their wives, when those interests are at cross purposes to their own. A man who wishes to be allowed to legally beat his wife if she dis-pleases him in the slightest way is unlikely to vote for a candidate promising a crack-down on spousal abuse, even though it would be to his wife's benefit.
in the type of society that is being suggested here I would expect these voters to be more concerned with the well-being of their whole family
Expect in one hand, [excrete] in the other, and see which one fills up first.
FOO and BAR are what are called metasyntactic variables, acting as a stand-in for anything different between the average man and the average woman which would affect the morality or immorality of their relationship. If you tell us what you believe the relevant differences between the genders are, I can explain how this applies to it specifically.
Who saves one life, saves the world entire.
Many societies have thought this way. They have tended to leave skulls.
Except for the fact that other anti-social behaviour harms people....
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