The opinion piece seems to be arguing that the main characteristic of sluts is them pursuing men somewhat aggressively, initiating relationships or at least sending blatant IOIs (indicators of interest) whereas the chastity of non-sluts manifests as them waiting while being paralyzed on the sidelines and being wallflowers. I find this rather strange.
I think most women, sluts or not, obviously agree that initiating relationships with men is cringy and comes across as desperate – and that accordingly, it’s not that sluts are such by virtue of pursuing men – and that putting out early to men that are potential partners/husbands is bad strategy. The simple difference between sluts and non-sluts is that the former agree to proposals for casual sex (normally) from men they do not view as potential husbands and the latter do not.
Andrew Tate once posted that he rejects women who have slept with more than 3 men.
I think it’s worth mentioning that in a practical sense, actually following this standard would reduce his mating pool to nil in the current social reality.
Botond173
1d ago
I'd add that lifespans have indeed risen due to medical technology but healthspans, so to speak - that is, one's longevity as a healthy person capable of working -, have not.
Botond173
1d ago
I see. I suppose your argument is that this is one aspect that young people notice and it does erode whatever level of willingness they have to enter vocational training instead of college.
Botond173
3d ago
"Socially acceptable loitering" is simply another word for "socializing", I think, which is the whole purpose of third places.
Botond173
3d ago
Playgrounds count as third places as well. In that sense, young parents in fact also very much need them.
Botond173
3d ago
Isn’t the usual heretical HBD realist argument regarding food deserts that the rampant crime that is the staple of ghetto areas is discouraging enterpreneurs from running small shops of any kind? Also, doesn't a food desert by definition include any shop within a walking distance that offers any food, not just healthy food?
I’m rather certain that youths in apprenticeship/vocational training also have sufficient opportunity to party, smoke weed, play video games, chill and hook up. The main difference is that none of that is financed by government money; on the other hand, we’re talking about people that are already earners. I guess I also have to concede that they lack access to the social circles that are normally made up by college students, which does hinder hookup/mating options.
Am I missing something here?
Botond173
3d ago
I wouldn't argue that BJJ gyms count as third places, as they obviously only exist to serve BJJ practicioners. Third places by definition need to also be accessible to average people who don't necessarily share a niche hobby.
Botond173
5d ago
I think it's more accurate to simply say that the female sex drive is reactive and the male sex drive is not.
Botond173
5d ago
non-promiscuous men are still chasing the "hoes" (and are complaining about them) instead of concentrating on the majority of women that aren't
I've checked out this extensive discussion and maybe I've missed a couple of arguments but I don't see anyone questioning this premise, even though I think it's highly suspect. It seems to be a usual case of female delusion drive by a combination of projection and the apex fallacy.
Botond173
6d ago
I think the correct summary is: society accepts unfairness as long as it benefits women.
Botond173
6d ago
Yes. This is the same data I have previously seen posted on Marginal Revolution, for example. Demographic implosion has been happening for decades and is continuing, but the causes have changed.
Botond173
6d ago
I think Kraut was referring to the population pyramid, not population size.
Botond173
6d ago
I suggest two thought experiments.
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Let's assume that Denmark goes into a serious economic crisis and consequently the government decides to cut down own welfare spending? Which demographic is most likely to lose their handouts first, if not poor men, especially single men?
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Take a 20-year-old pretty single woman from the poorest region of Ukraine and take her to a Danish town. Compared to a 20-year-old poor but handsome local man on welfare, which of them do you think is more likely to receive more attention, time, money and resources from Danish society?
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Also, is your argument then that homosexual men romanticize the concept masculinity because they are unable to experience their own masculinity by being a husband and father?
Botond173
11d ago
I wonder if Mishima had Italian and German (so post-Axis) contemporaries, with the same sort of experiences and talents as he had.
Botond173
11d ago
I think relatively intelligent women are also aware of this and it is a source of frustration and resentment for them. A beautiful woman has innate value to society pretty much no matter what she does – that’s rather obvious. But the thing with innate worth is that, well, it’s innate and constant. You’ll be valued as a beautiful woman for sure, but not for anything else or anything more. You can try proving your intelligence and abilities but everyone will just assume that it’s only your pretty face that gets doors opened for you. You’ll never be more than you already are. This does not apply to men who, on the other hand, have no innate worth to society.
Botond173
11d ago
There’s this relatively well-known (I guess) online trope that goes something like this:
Girlfriend who is breaking up with you just now: “You’ll never find another girl like me!”
You (in your head): but.. you literally look exactly like every other girl (recalling a scene you’ve just seen on the street the other day, where a bunch of college girls looking exactly the same were hanging around the street corner)
The joke here is mainly that the college girls featured in this trope are all wearing these gigantic, baggy, light-colored jeans and also completely similar tops. Can anyone explain where this style originates? What’s the story on this? I’m aware of the usual answers: women are like a dumb herd, fashion does not need to make any sense, it’s just a fad etc.
I can only assume that the modern average middle-class single woman, acculturated in 3rd wave feminism, is reluctant to wear either skirts or those tight-fitting low-rider jeans from the turn of the millennium because she assumes it’d draw the attention of shithead patriarchal dudebros.
Botond173
11d ago
Not Charlottesville PD, but the officials who were controlling it. The governor, the city mayor, the deputy mayor etc.
I wonder where these retarded 'youth criminal diversion programs' originate from.
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