Botond173
5hr ago
Presumably a leftist similar in some way to Charlie Kirk has been killed at some point in the last ten years (and if not, is that an interesting datapoint in its own right?).
There indeed was such an intentional hit-and-run in Portland in 2019, although it was supposedly not politically motivated.
Botond173
5hr ago
The big difference is that Carson's killing was not politically motivated at all, was it?
This is the type of thing that conservatives are trying to stop
I thought that was referring to the "lived in a bus in Berkeley, CA doing drugs in a polyamorous sex cult" part.
Would you care to provide some current examples? I don't quite understand how these are supposed to be different from scissor statements.
Botond173
3d ago
Wehraboos, in a nutshell, believe that the Germans had the best weapons, tactics and commanders in WW2, and only lost the war due to the numerical and material superiority of the Allies, who also committed just as many war crimes as them.
Botond173
4d ago
The three downward-pointing tilted arrows were the symbol of the German Iron Front which was, in fact, a republican and Social Democratic umbrella organization.
Botond173
5d ago
A world in which blacks are slowly shifted back towards exclusions and slavery, women back into the kitchen and domestic violence, and other minorities eradicated outright, and in which nothing good can be hoped for anymore, social progress is annihilated, and only caricatures of the darkest past are permitted as modes of life.
I don't quite understand why I'm supposed to consider that endgame to be worse than that of said violent leftists though.
Botond173
5d ago
OK, the British killed some people at Amritsar. That's what state killing looks like, shooting guns.
Just to nitpick: it wasn't British state policy though, not even in India. The massacre wasn't ordered or sanctioned from above. The troops had no orders to disperse the protestors with lethal force.
The fundamental cause was that the Indian economy wasn't very developed, people who had grain didn't want to sell it to starving people who had no money, the govt had little capacity to force them to do so and didn't try very hard.
On the other hand, the government very much had capacity to construct an inland customs barrier thousands of miles long in order to enforce the salt tax. Something doesn't add up. Also, wasn't it within the power of the government to buy up wheat and then distribute it to famine victims in order to prevent mass death? Provided they wanted a 'cordial win-win relationship' with their colonial subjects, that is?
Botond173
6d ago
Almost without exception violent leftists are broadly negative about the future, so that's not surprising.
Botond173
6d ago
I just went on Bluesky with a fresh new account and searched for Kirk and sorted by top and scrolled by around 30 posts before I found one saying the death of Charlie Kirk was wrong and it was still accompanied by "And Charlie Kirk was a horrible, hateful man who spent his life radicalizing young people to embrace their worst demons by targeting women, people of color, immigrants, and the marginalized."
I consider myself a dissident rightist harboring no illusions about this entire matter but I do sort of wonder – is there any school of thought that is not of the third/fourth wave lipstick feminist / liberal / ‘progressive’ variety that these posters would ever be willing to not categorize as horrible, hateful, radicalizing (whatever that word even means in their minds) and demonic?
Botond173
6d ago
Any policy option that is without drawbacks or tradeoffs is also merely symbolic and, quite literally, ineffective.
Botond173
6d ago
before reaching a measure of reconciliation
That's what happened with the abortion debate in your view?
Botond173
6d ago
Ostensibly, the parade was a commemoration of the 80th anniversary of the Allied victory in World War II. But Xi’s decision to invite the leaders of Russia, North Korea, and Iran, while snubbing the United States, Britain, and France, made clear that he is thinking more about future alliances than historic ones.
I think it's worth pointing out that the tradition of the Chinese communists officially celebrating the WW2 victory over Japan goes back to the long bygone days of...well, 2014 actually, if Wikipedia is to be believed. And the world leaders mentioned were only "snubbed" in the sense that apparently they've never attended any of these celebrations before anyway.
I know it’s controversial even here to refer to the homeless urban underclass as vermin or wild animals, but I can’t think of a better metaphor. Everyone who grew up in a major American metropolitan area knows that certain environments around the city are the natural habitat for a certain kind of predator.
It's not like Ukraine or Eastern Europe in general is radically different from North Carolina in that regard though.
Botond173
7d ago
The NYT capitalizes “Black” but leaves “white” lowercase. Elon Musk pointed this out and it’s getting traction. This is a policy shift the NYT, AP, and others made in 2020 after George Floyd’s killing, with the reasoning that “Black” marks shared cultural identity, while capitalizing “White” risks feeding white-identity politics.
The enormous levels of bias, lying, context denial and manipulation on the part of the US mainstream media with regards to race relations was already clear as day back during the Trayvon Martin scandal 13 years ago.
Botond173
7d ago
I dispute Mike Davis's 'Late Victorian Holocausts' thesis. Firstly, it's inappropriate to compare to a Holocaust since a famine isn't an organized mass killing so much as a mildly disorganized mass not-saving.
It's normally the publishers who decide on book titles and subtitles, not the authors, and it's their evident interest to grab the readers' attention. I imagine the author is probably not a Holocaust 'relativist' himself.
Secondly, much more severe famines were occurring right next door in China in this period.
From the same Wikipedia article:
This book explores the impact of colonialism and the introduction of capitalism during the El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) related famines of 1876–1878, 1896–1897, and 1899–1902, in India, China, Brazil, Ethiopia, Korea, Vietnam, the Philippines and New Caledonia.
Likewise, it's hard to see how a few thousand British administrators running the whole country could cause famine actively, though they were not great at stopping famine.
From the same page:
Davis argues that "Millions died, not outside the 'modern world system', but in the very process of being forcibly incorporated into its economic and political structures. They died in the golden age of Liberal Capitalism; indeed, many were murdered ... by the theological application of the sacred principles of Smith, Bentham and Mill."
The book's main conclusion is that the deaths of 30–60 million people killed in famines all over the world during the later part of the 19th century were caused by laissez-faire and Malthusian economic ideology of the colonial governments.
From a different article:
The regular export of grain by the colonial government continued; during the famine, the viceroy, Lord Lytton, oversaw the export to England of a record 6.4 million hundredweight (320,000 tons) of wheat, which made the region more vulnerable. The cultivation of alternate cash crops, in addition to the commodification of grain, played a significant role in the events.[6][7]
The Mughals who previously ruled India fielded a huge army, it's hard to see how the relatively small British/Indian forces based in India, around 300,000, were unduly taxing the Indian economy. The Qing fielded a million men and embarked on their own expensive indigenous naval programs. If India weren't colonized by Britain, it would likely have undertaken similar expenditure and/or get invaded by someone, resulting in an increased fiscal burden. Russia for instance spent about 30% of its budget on the military around 1900.
Fair points. However, is the main standard argument for colonial rule not the idea that it results in a higher level of flourishing and prosperity for its subjects compared to the dictatorship of their native brutish elites?
Botond173
8d ago
They actually paid money to the Raj government when deploying Indian troops for imperial operations that didn't have to do with the defence of India. The cost of war would be borne by the British treasury, not the Indian treasury.
I feel compelled to quote US historian Mike Davis, via Wikipedia:
"Between 1875–1900—a period that included the worst famines in Indian history—annual grain exports increased from 3 to 10 million tons", equivalent to the annual nutrition of 25m people. "Indeed, by the turn of the century, India was supplying nearly a fifth of Britain's wheat consumption at the cost of its own food security."[6] In addition,
Already saddled with a huge public debt that included reimbursing the stockholders of the East India Company and paying the costs of the 1857 revolt, India also had to finance British military supremacy in Asia. In addition to incessant proxy warfare with Russia on the Afghan frontier, the subcontinent's masses also subsidized such far-flung adventures of the Indian Army as the occupation of Egypt, the invasion of Ethiopia, and the conquest of the Sudan. As a result, military expenditures never comprised less than 25 percent (34 percent including police) of India's annual budget ...[7]
As an example of the effects of both this and of the restructuring of the local economy to suit imperial needs (in Victorian Berar, the acreage of cotton doubled 1875–1900),[8] Davis notes that "During the famine of 1899–1900, when 143,000 Beraris died directly from starvation, the province exported not only thousands of bales of cotton but an incredible 747,000 bushels of grain."
Botond173
14d ago
Recently there was Sydney Sweeney, who somehow became a darling of the online right while being famous for getting naked and simulating sex on screen.
What I find most ironic about the whole "good jeans" controversy is that there's a strong possibility that she'll actually end up not passing on her genes i.e. she'll either remain childless or end up adopting.
Botond173
15d ago
For instance, it would be appropriate for men to cheer, cry with joy, or hug each other if their sports team won the grand final, whereas stereotypically women might not react to that.
They might not do so, but is there really any social convention dictating that it's somehow unbecoming of them as women to do so?
Botond173
20d ago
I wonder if it's common for Bulgarian Gypsies to carry Turkic names / be nominally of the Turkic/Muslim minority.
Botond173
21d ago
Feminist accusations widely mocked by right-wingers online and reports of migrant/Muslim/black etc. underclass sexual violation of native teenage girls and young women tend to concern widely different forms of male behavior though.
Botond173
21d ago
What is not real is this AI-generated image of a young girl emblazened with Scottish garb and Celtic war paint defending her home and honor with sabre and battleaxe.
At this point it's warranted to ask the tangentially related question as to why Scotland altogether is apparently not one bit less cucked than England.
These may have been nebulous political motivations but were almost certainly still political. I'm sure that can hardly be said about Carson's killer.
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