ArjinFerman
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My argument is that the antipathy between the groups is not the same thing as what one group decides to do to the other based on those feelings, so you're completely misportraying my argument, and his as well.
Edit: I answered from the notifications, and lost the context a bit. The countries you listed made me think you responded to the other comment where I listed them. But since bringing them up doesn't make a lot of sense without the context of the other comment, I'll leave my original response, and add an extra at the end related to this one.
Just a nitpick
According to Statistics Finland, 89% of the current Finnish population were born to mothers who were permanently resident in Finland at the time of their birth
That's very weasily wording. A permanent resident is not necessarily a Finn.
The total population of the countries listed above is ~40 million, and the percentage of that population who are considered native to their respective countries is about 79%. So contrary to claims of it being an ethnostate, Israel is actually more ethnically diverse than the average of all the countries you listed.
Each of these countries has a smaller population than Israel, and if I understood your argument correctly, it was about absolute numbers, not relative diversity, something like: there's a lot of white people, so they're not going to die out any time soon. If their population lower, than they are at a higher risk.
Also, keep in mind Israel is the only country with an above replacement fertility rate, so they're doing better, even if the other countries are more homogenous.
And it hardly needs stating that, in pretty much all of the countries listed above, the lion's share of the non-native population is made up of people from ethnic backgrounds closely related to that of the native population e.g. 24% of Latvia is Russian
In the other thread you argued that I shouldn't throw the Mizrahim in the same bag as the Arabs, but you're telling me Latvians are basically the same as Russians?
Also, this feels like just trying to get back to the "whites are all the same, look how many of them are, they will not die out any time soon" framing, when my argument is that if you look at individual nations, which is what we're doing with Israel, their position is much more precarious, so we should worry about them more than we do about Israel.
So contrary to claims of it being an ethnostate, Israel is actually more ethnically diverse than the average of all the countries you listed.
Come on, it clearly is. It's a state specifically set up for the benefit of a particular ethnicity, with strit immigration controls, and non-universal rights for it's citizens. Israelis explicitly say that their country needs to be majority Jewish (and I agree with them). If Israel is not an ethnostate, then I just want European states to implement the same laws that will also make them not-ethnostates.
No, I don't think I am.
You were. With this:
The origin of antisemitism, or any hatred of minorities, is not just the behavior of that group.
you're changing the subject. Your original claim was that the other poster's statement implied that the holocaust was justified.
The original claim was about the origins of antisemitism, not about what their antisemitism inspired them to do.
I could have a burning frothing-at-the-mouth hatred for someone, and still not do anything about it. A sociopath might murder someone just because they were in the way, but without any hard feelings. You're just conflating two unrelated things.
punishable by getting run over by a steamroller.
"Hey bro, I heard you like cylindrical projections...."
Come on, the region of Germany he's from is literally in his name. As to his political views, he could only be a tanky if you're a big subscriber to horseshoe theory, or it turned out he really likes tanks (I think he's more into medieval warfare).
Depending on what you mean by "swamp", that was not even the point. He could engage in all the corruption he wanted to, for all I care, as long as he broke from the current foreign policy establishment.
Also, if he wasn't the best, who do you think was better? I'm a pretty cynical bloke, and my sympathy for Trump didn't even come from his promises, but from the kinds of people who hated him, and the crying bluehairs weren't half as important here as the crying Bill Kristols. Did Kamala even promise to do less foreign wars than Trump?
If the straightforward read on politics is a road to disappointment, and so is the cynical read, what is there left?
They keep hitting the defect button, at this point we might as well make the cost for doing so, ugly
That was the entire point of getting Trump in, as far as I understood it. There comes a point where one starts doubting the point of democracy itself...
I wanted to persist the dead bugs into the background, even after I respawned them. Drawing directly to the background texture seemed like a straightforward solution, then you have one background sprite that can handle an infinite amount of dead bugs, and the engine takes it from there. The basic case of a single background cell was pretty easy, it's when I wanted to handle infinite scrolling that things started getting complicated.
Now that you mention it, I wonder if there isn't a built-in way to do it in the engine. Claude offered a few alternatives, but also said my idea is pretty solid, and after I mentioned infinite scrolling, even said it's probably the best way to handle it.
But if it would have happened anyway because he wasn't critical then having an informant on the inside doesn't meaningfully change much besides their access to information.
But if it would have happened anyway because he wasn't critical then did a supporter really "support" anything? I think this is just a fundamentally wrong way to analyze this.
So you understand that it is a common strategy to use informants
In literally said these agencies often use entrapment, and you're trying to frame it as agreement with you?
I made some progress with the background generation, but we're not quite there yet. What's happening now is that if the player moves off the current grid cell, more cells are generated, the old cells get copied from the shader memory, and normal textures are initialized from them, and assigned to the background sprites (this is when you see them turn pink). The new cells get assigned to the texture array that sits on the shader.
I've hit some issues on the way, as expected copying the textures from the GPU to the CPU slows things down, so I spread it out over a few seconds. This probably won't be enough though, because still have to shuffle the shader texture array around (if you move off-grid to the right, each cell in the array has to be moved left, and blank ones need to be created on to the right). Doing this on the CPU won't be feasible it would require 6 more GPU-CPU copies to read them and 9 more CPU-GPU copies to set them in their new positions, so I'll try to do the whole thing on the GPU. It's a lot of pixels to copy, but it should be a lot simpler code than the bug simulation, so I'm hoping I can do it in a single frame without affecting performance.
How have you been doing @Southkraut?
Agreed. However if the dissenting members (or some other subgroup) are accused of hypocrisy based on the stated views of some other subgroup, that's the sort of group responsibility I am talking about.
But has he done that here? I thought the accusation was that he isn't being specific, which would preclude from attributing views to people who dissent from them.
In this case, the Jew hater identified (1) "Jewish thinkers" who are allegedly responsible for pushing various norms of conduct on the world; and (2) "Zionists" who allegedly carve out an exception to violate these norms.
Sorry, the last comment I saw was about "Ethnostate for me, infinity zogs for thee". It's a reductive and snarky way to phrase it, but I think this view is actually shared by a majority of Jewish people.
This seems to assume that the Charlottesville rally would not have occured had they not been in touch with a single member of the larger group chat behind the rally.
No, it doesn't. I don't have to assume that a particular supporter was critical to an even to call him a supporter.
Consider in just the five years from 2012 to to this hearing in 2017 the ATF and DEA alone paid informants almost 260 million.
Yeah, glowies are also known for creating situations that would later allow themselves to swoop in, and call themselves heroes.
If his characterization of a specific case is correct, none of what you said is relevant. It's perfectly possible that on average things are more or less lime you describe, but people make an exception for Trump.
Keeping Israel as a necessarily majority-Jewish state, while promoting diversity in any state they're a minority in, for one.
By majority-supporting progressive policies for other nations, while opposing them for their own communities.
Note also how for the anti-Semite, each and every Jew is responsible for whatever is said by every other Jew.
A general statement about a group does not imply even it's dissenting members are held accountable for the majority opinion.
Come up with a better name for it, if you want, the dynamic seems the same, and the point was to show that saying a reaction was caused by something, does not actually justify the reaction, unlike what you were claiming.
Doesn't this strongly suggest that Group A's antipathy towards Group B really has nothing to do with Activity X, and it's just a convenient pretext to ostracise a group they wanted to harass for unrelated reasons?
You could say that activity X has nothing to do with it, but not in the way you wish to imply. The actual issue was the dynamic where an activity is seen as corrosive to society by both groups, so one of them bans it universally, and the other bans it only within the ingroup. I don't know how you can claim it's a "convenient pretext", one group is clearly defecting, and has no right to whine about their defection being recognized as such.
The activity being no longer recognized as harmful due to changing socio-economic circumstances does not change the fact that one of the groups was defecting. And even though that particular activity is no longer controversial, the defection dynamic causing the conflict is still observable today.
It’s wild to me how quickly this must’ve changed
We literally discussed it in one of the CW threads back on Reddit.
The Baltics hopped on the mass immigration bandwagon as well, and I'm a bit skeptical on how much it's "doing it to themselves", a lot of it is pressured from the EU level. I'm also not sure I buy that Israel's issue with open borders is about the immigrants' love for Hamas, and that they'd be perfectly happy to import a couple million Indians, and give them full rights as citizens.
But that's all beside the point. I grant that the nature of the threat these nations face is different than that faced by the Jews, the question was whether Europeans should be allowed to advocate for their nation's continued existence the same way that Jewish people are. The precise nature of the threat seems completely orthogonal to that question. From what I recall about the opinions you expressed here, you wouldn't have anything against that, so as far as I can tell, we're good. Ftttg, on the other hand, seems to be saying that only Jews should be allowed to do that, because their situation is so special, and that's where I'm going to have an issue. Even if I misunderstood him, there's no shortage of people, even otherwise extremely anti-woke ones like James Lindsay or the Babylon Bee brigade, who will make that argument explicitly.
Look I'm happy to concede my ignorance on the subject, so feel free to set me straight, but how exactly are they so black without African ancestry? Why are they so indistinguishable from Palestinians, if they are not ethnically Arabs?
Then you round them off to their respective overarching populations. Africans and Arabs aren't in particular danger of extinction either, so we should shrug at the vulnerability of each of the Jewish subgroups, no?
Not really. We should still care about Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Swedes, Finns, Norwegians, Danes, the Irish, Icelanders... etc., etc., etc., far before we care about the Jews. If we shouldn't care about these nations because they are all "white" and "whiteness" will live on without them, we also shouldn't care about the Jews. Unless you want to tell me that Jews aren't white.
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Oh yeah, I was there too. Somehow all the never-Trumpers didn't like him either.
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