2D3D
3mo ago
I think we need to consider the effect of a 'free' existence provided by the state through social security, and the motivating effect of maximal value extraction. My existence is free through social security and healthcare, even if it is objectively a low quality life because my existence is continuous marginal pain. Inertia keeps me from killing myself, and small incidental pleasures such as Number Go Up in my social security account can be enough to motivate a person through a period of temporary pain.
We should also consider that heterogenous populations can view competition as existential and will refuse to die if they think their enemy will seize the demographic advantage. Kill white grandmas so the NDP can win more seats is probably a desired outcome whispered longingly when a Canadian progressive is deep in his cups, but the inverse is likely yelled at by truckers who need the barest excuse to rant about the Indian invasion.
2D3D
3mo ago
There is plenty of optimism driven momentum surrounding Harris coming from the anti-Trump forces, enough for her to coast along with minimal foot in mouth incidences. Trump by contrast seems intent on being the driver of the conversation, and while I agree with others on this board that much of the media fact-checking establishment is grasping at straws to inflate the severity of the stupid shit he says, it is also true that he says very little that is cogent or meaningful. He hasn't got a good insult on the level of Sleepy Joe or Crooked Hilary for Harris, and JD Vance comment on childless cat ladies is the only thing percolating in my media environment Harris is surprisingly teflon at the moment, and the Don hasn't found a soundbite to stick.
2D3D
3mo ago
Obama actually said that he knew there would be a backlash against the educated elite, but he posited a John Wayne esque tough talker would emerge to stand up against woke excesses, instead of a billionaire new yorker in a bad toupee.
The animating energies against woke elites is definitely real and much more powerful than the woke elite can acknowledge, or perhaps even handle, but Trump is proving to be a remarkable spoiler in prognosticating the culture wars direction.
2D3D
3mo ago
Enshittification of public spaces has massive knock on consequences regarding social cohesion that are unquantifiable by econometrics. Diminished prosocial trust in neighbours to look after ones property and kin willingly, much less competently, results in private sector security and care solutions that take away theoretically optimal agglomerated public services. Property value disparities due to unspecified 'concerns' (crime. its crime) about neighbourhood populations cause inefficient capital utilization and rectification measures, or outright capital destruction. Worst of all, faith in public institutions faltering causes underinvestment and thus under capability of theoretically optimal outcomes.
Good outcomes flow from good societies. You can't build a utopia and bring in street trash and expect them to magically shape up. There are no CCS chargers in shitty neighbourhoods because tweakers steal the copper, and there are no grocery stores in food deserts because shitheads keep stealing stuff.
2D3D
3mo ago
Part of my own reckoning with the fecklessness of youth was nursing a 'good' friend back to health repeatedly. Having a slurring dribbling mess repeatedly collapse on your couch is fine if he cleans up after himself, but I asked him if he even enjoyed getting so trashed and his quiet 'I don't know how else to live' really shook me. Great family, loving relationships, excellent prospects, and he was throwing it away for diminishing returns because of a short circuited neurological reward pathway and a social system that enabled self destructiveness.
I left the states, abandoned my old number and ultimately lost touch with him entirely. His facebook page is a yearly 'Happy birthday ___' from the same few people, and I strongly suspect no one knows if he is alive or dead. I know the another guy is alive because he purged all his social media, but these autoupdated digital profiles might as well be tombstones.
2D3D
3mo ago
I second the sentiment about concern for kids. When childless I could not give a shit about drug policy or gender education, because let people live how they want. Now that I have kids, I waste time on asinine committees and boards because I want to guard against liberal crazies.
Its easy to not care if the only skin in the game is your own. Its much more personal when you actually give a shit about someone else. Vague secular humanist universalism has nothing on blood and soil.
2D3D
3mo ago
Possible. I have only my own personal experience with addictions to go on, and my personal conclusion is that the diminishing returns of autonomic biochemical release from satiating addiction was specifically pleasurable due to the novelty of youth, and minor psychological reprogramming allowed my personal utility calculation to value steak, lagavulin and VR porn equally to nicotine and cocaine.
Of course that could be due to physiological incapability limiting me from continuing to achieve the same upper highs of nicotine and cocaine use that sparked the initial addiction cycle, but post-hoc quantification of 'personal utility' is so useless that I might as well make up whatever historical valence I had assigned to the different contributory factors.
I am personally suspicious of modern 'research' into therapy and addiction, particularly the suspiciously high incidence of journals concluding moral expatiation for asocial behaviors. He had addiction/genetic trauma/ptsd/a bad day so of course he had no choice but to be an asshole. In this space of 'addiction cannot be managed' the criticisms of Ozempic as some form of permanent pleasure-depriving limbic path zombiefication drug seems more like concern trolling to encourage continual indulgence in bad behaviors rather than handwringing about motivation death. If ozempic causes the tweaker to rot in a lazyboy watching SpongeBob and chugging doritos instead of seeking means to score meth for that sweet sweet dragon, then bring on the apathetic skinnification of antisocial losers.
2D3D
3mo ago
Cravings suck. Satisfying the craving provides a dopamine hit, but plenty of other things provide similar hits without having the escalatory cycle of requiring more to be satisfied. Indulging in the addiction loop is absolving individual agency to seek prosocial alternatives, and further incentivizes a nonacretive utility function.
If Ozempic means people ge their dopamine hits from more effective sources, then that is a net benefit. If people get less addicted to retweets and updoots for personal validation and find value in touching grass then we will have a much better existence than what we suffer now.
2D3D
3mo ago
Disparate impact is the meta for escaping accountability. Racism, mental illness, trauma (no longer restricted to acute incidental causes, with nebulous childhood and intergenerational traumas now accepted as equally valid) are unassailable escape clauses, and proximate trauma is now an accepted escape clause too. Censuring families for poorly managing their delinquent kin was socially accepted, but now it is rude to not consider every exculpatory clause for bad behavior.
The west has accepted self-declared victimisation as a social meta to extract goodwill and therefore resources from compliant populations. Whether this compliance will remain eternally subservient is currently unknown, but signs point to this meta breaking apart.
2D3D
3mo ago
Rehabilitation is a modern cheat code word employed to pretend that curing the original sin of (someone else who is really to blame) is what will turn someone into a productive member of society, absolving the criminal/delinquent of their crimes by the magic of blaming someone else and pinky promising that rehab has made the desire to commit crime go away.
In truth crime is simply a balancing of incentive structures, and just because people are bad at making their own calculus does not absolve society of constructing poor incentives to begin with. Criminals may not necessarily understand the meta of rehab program + therapy sessions to get better in-prison treatment and get lesser sentences from DAs, but repeated interactions and information transfer surely leads to convergent evolution. The existence of lenient alternatives to incarceration serve to incentivize criminality, since legal economic avenues are not nearly as socially emotionally or economically rewarding as bipping cowardly suburbanites.
2D3D
3mo ago
A breakdown in social order happens when ones extended charity is either repeatedly abused or actively harmful. Recalculating the benefits of extending unlimited charity have resulted in sober ssessments of 'rehabilitation' effectiveness especially when available rehabilitation resources are underutilized and ineffacious on the rare occasions they were used - see Portlands drug rehab program where no drug addicts using clean needles ended up going for rehab, and there have been no successful rehab outcomes in the program.
As much as we as social creatures wish to extend sympathy for 'there but for the grace of god go i' at a certain point we all acknowledge that some bad actors are continuing to act to the net disbenefit of everyone, no matter their sob story. In fact, the enablers are often the greatest sufferers of the bad behavior, for their internal world construction is massively tested by the evident failure present in their midst.
The usual method of mental reconciliation is simple denial, whereby enablers deny the criminality or antisocial consequences of their loved ones. This can work quite well when surplus resources exist to cushion said antisocial consequences, but breaks apart when scarce resources require justice, extralegal or otherwise. Families of criminals cry when their loved ones are incarcerated by a 'biased' justice system, but they cry at funerals when gang wars kill belligerents as well.
Its a gacha game called Love And Deepspace (abbreviated as LADS). Shot to 2nd place in gacha monthly earnings (est 40m USD) last month, which is enormous for a girl-focused husbando collector.
I keep wondering what women do with their time and money, when men are clearly the ones wasting thousands on glorified jpeg waifus in fairly mid games, and LADS hardly has a significantly better gameplay loop, and it turns out girl games just needed something that shamelessly catered to their preferences. Which, as far as I can tell, is 'six packed prettyboys with oversized bulges and permanent pouts'.
2D3D
3mo ago
As a culmination of a date where the line had plenty of opportunity to be crossed but either party pulled back to continue dialing up the vibe, sure. I don't think the modern dating meta has any players sufficiently skilled in social cue generation and exploitation to perform such a game. There weren't that many in the past either, but media actually showed such concepts existing. Watching Sex Education made me fear for the dating prospects of my kids.
2D3D
3mo ago
If I change the meta so no one ever gets laid, I look normal by comparison!
All this advice written by well meaning men and women for respectful fully informed consent requiring communication somehow less sexy than signing a performance contract, and yet all the smut women read is full on bestiality rape cuck stuff. Its fucking hilarious how the hest selling gacha game for women features universally good looking prettyboys with chiseled abs that repeatedly state their intent to violate any concept of consent if the MC keeps up with her antics. Guys will hornypost on main but the subreddit for that game makes gooners seem normal.
2D3D
3mo ago
Europeans used violence, which is the big difference. These foreigners were actually 'invited', and exploited lawfare for their benefit. As such, no complaints are valid. It does not matter that the inviter and the sufferer are not the same person, just like how the Algonquin invited the French to attack the (someone). The only thing that matters is that the Europeans played the game competently and won, and the inviters lost the game.
2D3D
3mo ago
Yea the internal curation of progressives is impressive. Wrongthink is immediately excised, and more impressively their adherents default to shibboleths. Fundamentally I maintain it is displaced religiosity, promising moral absolution for existing as long as unlimited support for Social Justice is maintained. My progressive friends posted articles about Israelis investigating prisoner rape in response to my highlighting of the ISIS Taylor Swift attempted attack. I honestly think Swifties would have been happier to be attacked and murdered since they get to proclaim #hopenothate. Instead their concert gets cancelled and they get no opportunity for performance.
2D3D
3mo ago
That certainly is true for the PMC here, where we are constantly reminded of our inferiority by an endlessly imported class of Chinese and Indians and Malaysians, but the cultural dissonance is only moderate, with no welfare resources to be exploited by foreigners and lead to local resentments.
Guest workers here are primarily in the construction and domestic worker segments, where there was never sufficient local population that existed to service that demand. Singapores status as an entrepot colony meant that most civil construction works were conducted by Chinese and Indian (by nationality) labourers, with little local populations that were displaced economically. This continued into the modern era, where rapid industrialisation saw most labourers (Chinese and Indians stuck here after the chaos of the Civil War and Partition) in post-independence Singapore prefer to work in sheltered factories instead of outdoor construction. We had Malaysians and Taiwanese imports at first, then now it is Indians, Thais and Burmese, with Filipinos preferring to work in middle office roles. Locals certainly bemoan the presence of foreigners, but even with outsize pay for locals they still leave some jobs unfulfilled, so the companies appeal the Ministry of Manpower for more foreign worker allotments and said allotments are granted.
To extend this scenario to the west, the main example I would use is farmhands. These men were never the locals of the farm area who want to work in backbreaking outdoor work, and instead have historically been displaced itinerants seeking shelter and employment. Farm owners certainly bitch about having to rely on foreigners now, but in olden days a drifter from Oklahoma is as much a foreigner in California as a Mexican was, and doubtless similar disparaging would occur for Buffalo vs White Plains New Yorkers. Hell, even the family the next farm over with one too many hands to work their own plot might as well be barbarians as far as a homeowner is concerned.
My point is that guest workers are a historically tested solution to the problem of 'I need cheap labor but I want to kick them out when I do not want them anymore.' Some domestic populations would lose out, but compared with 'bring them in and they will also bring in their family and we give them citizenship in 20 years time' guest workers are a clear winner.
You could just have 0 immigration as well, and I think we can look to Japan and Chinas eager embrace of gynoids for a model on how that would pan out, but we are still a few years away from that. More research is going into making human form factor robots fuckable instead of workable, and what that says about humanity is for a different thread
2D3D
3mo ago
I agree that they employ this rhetorical device constantly. I disagree that they believe it, at least in any permutation where belief relies on understanding. The contorting of reality to ensure their chosen pets are ALWAYS oppressed regardless of their active exercise of their own power lays bare the hollowness of their oppressor/oppressed framing. Copts are oppressed by Egyptians because of British colonialism, ISIS had no choice but to enslave and murder Yazidis because Islam was corrupted by Israel, the Janjaweed are executing Masalit boys (actual neotenous prepuberty boys, not 17 year old bearded 'children') because of western imperialism. The chosen oppressed have no agency when they exercise said agency actively and openly, the oppressor is somehow ALWAYS someone the progressive hates.
The meta is quite clear: be absolutely shameless when committing crimes and always blame white people. It is a useless strategy in actually developing your cultures capability and income, but it is a cheat code for unlimited cover to continue being brutal to your enemies.
2D3D
3mo ago
Yea but the NPC guards are broken, so they only arrest you even though the actual criminals are committing crimes on you. Plus, you get negative xp buffs from social media fallout if you actually fight back. The worst is that this is actually a PvP encounter and not PvE, so you can't even build a counter. Your only option is to supplant the NPC guards with your own PvP lowsec guild, but I'm not sure the build allows for this setup.
2D3D
3mo ago
Without police, people take justice into their own hands. A police free existence is not one where everyone lives in harmony free of police oppression, it is one where racialized small communities wage eternal war against the enemy living across the block.
The crips and the bloods are literally the modern ur-example. There was no police to defund, and in that void the racial black utopia of mutual community uplift manifested itself in gangsta rap monies being funneled into West Hollywood real estate.
2D3D
3mo ago
I will speak specifically to Singapore, though to be honest the USA had a version of this previously: guest workers are a fantastic deal for everyone involved.
Short term migrant workers for the most part do not want to live in the new land they are working in. Earning 3x their home salary is still 1/2 the required salary in their work country, so they prefer to suffer temporarily then go home to their families and live like kings there. It is the surplus of exploitable social resources that incentivizes staying on and bringing the family over. Guest workers certainly are exploited relative to local standards, but willing buyer willing seller. Even the UAE kafala has improved significantly since 2016, and for all the complaints of slavery there is still no shortage of applicants for construction and care jobs in these places.
2D3D
3mo ago
Brits get cheaper deliveroo and chip shops open past 5pm. This offsets the loss of social cohesion and local employment, and to claim otherwise is to prove ones fealties to Farage.
2D3D
3mo ago
I keep entertaining the idea of buying up a shithole island like Crypto Island and declaring in its sovereign charter that literally everyone in the world has automatic citizenship in Anarchyisle. No one would EVER want to move there of their own volition, but every country struggling to deport noncompliant migrants can just pay the dropoff fee to dump Anarchyisle residents here*. None of this stateless bullshit, everyone has jus sangui from mitochondrial eve.
Right now MENA migration is not waves of invaders swarming a fence, but family imports or rubber boats offloading two or three people every few minutes across vast unmonitored territories. The slow invasion is not Noticed at the borders, and Noticing concentrations is just proof of racism. Anarchyisle solves the meta of origin falsifiability by simply saying no human is illegal.
*For the extremely low fee of USD1000/month per 100 residents I will throw in internal border enforcement as well, hiring Mindanaon or Ugandan private security who have no qualms about hitting malcontents and extremely lax body camera maintenance procedures.
2D3D
3mo ago
There are a number of leftists trying to claim the reconquista was islamophobic and keep citing the caliphate of granada as a tolerant multiracial polity that had to be crushed by racist Christians. For leftists muslims must both be eternally present in Europe and free of all sin in order to justify mass importation and displacement of locals powers. Once the muslims are in place they will loyally vote in socialist feminists to bring forth the anticapitalist paradise where childless intellectuals are the final arbiters of justice and resource distribution. Nothing for proles, tokens for pets, everything for themselves.
I want to die when my brain is starting to go and limit my emotional enjoyment from kin, and my body can't enjoy things like food or sex anymore. Give me the ultracocaine, overdose on cialis and let me fuck a sexbot until my heart explodes. Also, best if I can calculate my anticipated savings from insurance payouts and have the insurer refund a balance of the payout to my beneficiaries. I'm saving you money by not living out of spite, give my kids some money to offset their trauma of grandpas livestreamed fisto 9000 sexfight.
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