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Why? It's healthy for teenagers to hang around adults and see how they behave instead of going off of movies about frathouses. I remember when I was a teen and ran the grill when my dad's friends were watching football; nobody asked who drank the one mormon's share of the beer if it didn't get more than that.

You do know teenagers are supposed to become adults, right? Like that's the whole point.

It seems like a perfectly normal part of maturation? She's going to start hanging around thirty year olds at some point.

The strawman is real.

American nationalism is more or less incidental to these people's worldview- they believe in a Christian culture, that might be led by the USA or France or Canada or Spain or any other particular country. They are however, Americans who believe patriotism is a virtue and notice there aren't a lot of other candidates. Most of them are probably Catholic supremacists; but they do believe in a broader Christian culture and focus on that. Moreover, many aren't traditional Catholics; American traditional Catholicism exists in a broader landscape of orthodox and politically conservative Catholicism heavily influenced by John Senior and, despite the personal sympathies of John Senior, the traditionalists are not the largest group therein(that would be charismatics). It is extremely possible that John Senior would have preferred a more moderate group had the religious landscape in 90's Catholicism been different; certainly the SSPX is a minority of self-described traditionalist Catholics today in a way it wasn't in the 90's. It is probably fair to say that they have an ideological... predisposition to further integration with Latin America, even if that comes at some cost, and this is probably why they generally oppose strict immigration enforcement- because they think in terms of civilizations and not nations, and they are elites who tend to like western hemisphere integration anyways.

If you're asking 'why does the GOP struggle with American ethnic nationalism' that's a fair answer- they simply do not have access to American ethnic nationalist elites, because America is an empire and doesn't produce ethnic nationalist elites. Instead they have... that.

She was low class trash- just like everyone else in this story. Trailer trash shrieking at each other is simply beneath the state's notice.

There isn't a 'labor union left'. There is a labor union faction in US politics, but it backed Trump in the last election, and is more or less just a corrupt machine.

Having actually been a blue collar union member before- they are increasingly disaligned from the institutional left because they're interested in preserving their own fiefdoms, and that generally takes the form of laws that allow them to box cost-insensitive customers into only using thoroughly unionized customers through contracts. That is the only thing they want from the government and in other ways they're often not particularly left aligned. They are not underpaid, but that varies from 'travel nurses' not underpaid to 'near sinecures'.

They are in no way marxists. They want more money for themselves and aren't interested in broader class struggles- their answer to non-union workers in the same field is 'should join the union', whether or not they'd let them.

I do not understand what is wrong with an(I assume) high school senior participating in niche hobbies with full on adults? Let her go if someone's willing to drive her, it's just being nice. Doesn't seem like your group is going to take advantage of her or anything.

Uh, while we don't have an ironclad reconstruction of the night trayvon died, the evidence we do have indicate that he started the fight by attacking the guy that shouldn't have been following him. Entirely within the realm of normal 17 year old boy behavior, but he still did the thing that led to his death.

On John Senior

John Senior- the one I'm talking about, not the British one- is one of the more influential figures that you've probably never heard of. On the face of it, he was an obscure academic at a state school in flyover. But his Integrated Humanities Program was shut down by the university of Kansas for producing hundreds of converts to Catholicism, despite a thorough investigation debunking allegations of proselytism. One of those converts is the current president of the American bishop's conference. Another one is the abbot of Our Lady of Clear Creek Abbey; there are a handful of somewhat less broadly influential bishops as well. This was when Catholicism was at a low point, in the seventies, when no one knew what it was really.

So what was the integrated humanities program? Well it would probably look quite familiar to those of you who follow classical education, but with an emphasis on the ability to occupy the mind with understanding. To do this, the courtly graces were emphasized as a means of practice, alongside spending time with nature, avoiding the television, stargazing, singing folk songs(not pop songs), and other things of the like. I think we have a couple of homeschoolers here- if you're aligned with the classical education school, this guy was the ideologue who developed your curriculum. It's been watered down for younger grades, but it's fundamentally his project.

After his program was shut down, Senior wrote two books- The Death of Christian Culture and The Restoration of Christian Culture- and drifted into the burgeoning traditionalist movement. He then went on the speaking circuit, and his followers moved around creating a network of conservative Catholic universities which embraced his methods and teachings. Senior died a pessimist, more or less affiliated with the SSPX(and this was in the 90s, when traditional Catholicism was more or less a game preserve for reactionaries and the SSPX was officially schismatic). But his ideas were gaining in popularity; shortly after his death the 'Newman guide' list of universities for conservative Catholics became a normal feature of orthodox Catholic life in the US. The model is now under threat due to the extreme cost of private college education, but it's trickled down. Classical schooling is fairly common. Florida is now allowing a special standardized test for classical educators to be an SAT/ACT equivalent for state colleges, and they're unlikely to be the last.

But you're motteizeans and you want the culture war relevance. Ok. We've had posts about the Trump admin being full of Catholics- one of which I'm not quite sure if it's a satire of Jewposting or not. You wonder why that is? It's because you can't run a society with all stemlords. Look at western society's literati- you will find, almost literally, conservative Catholics and SJWs and no one else. The conservative intelligentsia converts to Catholicism so often it's nearly a 'personal life check' on wikipedia, and the few noncatholics are mostly Anglicans with self-interested reasons or suspiciously Catholic-inflected Orthodox. Republicans put Catholics on the supreme court because they won't Sandra Day O'Connor, all due to John Senior. Yes, the pro-life movement provided money and alignment, but Senior provided something even more important.

That thing is elite formation. Every society, including ours, is led by an elite. Senior built a counter-elite, and you can't have conservative policy successes without it. This counter-elite staffs the republican party, it holds a majority on the supreme court by itself, it's most of the staffers at conservative think tanks- in short, it's why US conservatives are less singularly useless than their Canadian and British counterparts. The 'rise of christian nationalism' is because his elite stratum has been taught to think in terms of Christian culture(see their founding ideologue). The legitimate sociological term for this is the American Conservative Catholic renaissance, of which John Senior is the leading ideologue.

What we can learn from this is 1) you need an elite stratum 2) that elite stratum needs customs and ideology to sustain itself. What's your plan? Because Stemlording isn't one. Complaining about woke casting in movies isn't one(you'll notice the one director who avoids this is... Mel Gibson, a[n insane] member of the elite stratum I've just described). Being reflexively anti-woke isn't one. Are you going to form a pro-white elite(I have bad news for you about the skin colour of those attempting to join)? At the moment, we're very slowly winning, simply by being indispensable to the dominant party.

On the other hand, they could’ve charged with unlawful detention alongside all that- it seems like if she showed up consensually(and I don’t believe she didn’t understand the strings attached up front) they still tried to prevent her from leaving.

European cops in Chicago would just put knife wielding thugs in the hospital with multiple broken bones. That's what they do in the continent- the UK is not synonymous with Europe and Europe is not synonymous with the UK, Las Grisas or the Gendarmerie would be quite capable of dealing with south side Chicago before they were sued out of existence for use-of-force.

This is the same insane fantasy as 'women will dispense with fatherhood and raise their children communally after conceiving by IVF'. Actually, that's more likely to generate a 100% Aryan world, given who tends to be preferred as a sperm donor. Most children will be born by essentially natural methods, for the same reason the orientals don't breed now- anything that makes children more of a uber-high-investment optimized decision is going to have fewer of them.

Turkeys are easier than deer, but on an effort per unit of meat basis I tend to get a much better return from deer. Not a perfect analogy for chicken/beef, but it does point to economy of scale being a bigger deal than effort per animal. The parolees at the kill side of the slaughterhouse can probably produce more pounds of beef per hour, even if it comes from fewer animals.

FWIW my experience of at-home butchery is that pigs give the most meat poundage per hour invested, then lambs/sheep, then deer, then pigeons, then fowl. No doubt that the slaughterhouse has some technology and automation to make this less stark, but I'd still expect economy of scale to wash it out.

Mexico is experiencing huge economic growth and latin countries in practice tend to cycle between electing mano dura rightist tough on crime populists and pro-indigenous semiwoke quasisocialists(they're a lot wooier than the US version)... a lot like the USA is shaping up to start doing. The difference is that Mexico under US administration could plausibly carry out a mano dura crackdown on cartel violence in a way the Mexican authorities are incapable of.

The southern strategy was not the reason the south experienced a party switch- the south went reliably R in the 90's, long after the southern strategy was over.

ICE has mostly moved to places that aren't Karen central, though, right?

A foster care escapee is almost certainly well aware of the strings attached to a grown man willing to take her in- but if they didn't feed her and took her shoes away so she couldn't leave, well, this is the kind of thing that statutory rape charges exist to be filed over.

A runaway teen that they didn't feed or allow to sleep? Uh, hate to break it too you, but that's kinda a shitty way to treat someone for being a consensual sex partner. It sounds a lot more likely that she ran away and then they took her home and abused her. I have no doubt that she expected to have to sleep with him for housing and food, but it sounds like her treatment was unusually poor even by the low standards of minors trading sex for housing in a trailer park.

America is 60% white and older Americans are whiter on average. The 12 pack a day Hispanics drink bud(because it’s cheap). Among minors whites and Hispanics are of roughly equal numbers.

In Texas it's spring. All of these people are business owners, and all of them are insane.

Have you read the Odyssey? It's protagonist centered morality, full of sex and violence, with an approach to the progression of time that isn't particularly keyed to modern sensibilities, and it spends most of the plot in fantasyland.

The iliad and the odyssey are fine, but nobody wants to watch a movie of a faithful adaptation. It'd be seven hours, nc-17, and an art film all at the same time. The Iliad is better, I guess, but still.

Most adults in the ghetto are not within the justice system. Welfare might be an argument though.

Normie Americans don't drink bud light. The most popular beer in America is actually Modelo.

From my memories of paying to get deer processed(granted, it's been a few years, I've DIY'd 100% since the pandemic), labor in the packing plant is a relatively minor contribution- I remember it still being a third to half of the price as buying beef in the grocery store.

Not saying raising meatpacking wages won't raise prices. But probably less than you'd think- the price of the animal dominates the price of the meat in the store, not the price of the labor to process it(further evidence- the cheapest meat comes from chickens, then pigs, then cows. For economy of scale reasons, you should expect labor to be lowest per unit of meat on a cow and highest on a chicken).