hydroacetylene
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hydroacetylene
6hr ago
Traditional Catholics attempt to grow throughout the entire world. If I ever travel to Saudi Arabia, I have the number to call to find out where the underground Latin mass is.
And there is an interesting pattern- in the western hemisphere(including Latin America) and Europe(less ultraconservative parts of Ukraine and the Balkans), we're clearly a separate- even if only slightly- stratum from standard average novus ordo practicing Catholics. This includes Italy and Poland, where services are offered more conservatively. In Africa and India, we're not. Very hostile bishops in the western hemisphere will struggle to articulate doctrinal criticisms, often falling into vagueness. Meanwhile charismatic bishops in Africa can see no difference, or Maronite bishops(who love their 70's guitar hymns). I suppose it can be described as a tribal difference- namely, the difference of valuing high fertility and being more socially conservative than is accepted in the contemporary west. This is, in practice, a bigger deal than difference in beliefs around orthopraxis.
This is especially striking because we're... not shrinking. That kind of growth within a stagnant broader denomination attracts self comparison. And Africans who think the same way about the role of women, or the church's attitude towards contraception, and yet openly defend dancing on the altar during mass, feel more kinship than Italians who find Humanae Vitae deeply embarrassing but have very similar ideas about how the Catholic religion should be practiced.
Now of course in the USA there are many other tribes of practicing Catholic, because the collapse of universal Catholic K-12 education splintered the practicing Catholic world and only the Knights of Columbus have managed to somehow avoid this.
I don't know how, exactly, this slots in with your broader exploration of tribal loyalties. Unlike in your case, there are both red and blue tribe conservatives among the traditional Catholics worshipping and socializing with each other- with both represented in the clergy. But overcoming tribal differences comes only to a point, I suppose.
hydroacetylene
6hr ago
Ultra-Orthodox Jews are not like Christian fundamentalists. Christian fundamentalists generally have the skills necessary to survive in industrial first world societies without outside support, because if they did not, there would not be Christian fundamentalists anymore. That means their leadership has the normal leadership abilities that would enable them to lead their societies overall- perhaps less well or more corruptly, but they could do it, whereas it's not clear that grand rebbes have any such ability, because they're hereditary cult leaders who trade votes for welfare fraud.
Instead, the religious Zionists will probably run Israel. They already kind of do, and sure they're more corrupt than the left would be, but Israel isn't falling apart. And they have a barely lower fertility rate than the haredim.
hydroacetylene
7hr ago
Nearly eight years? College only lasts four to five. Most people don't go to grad school.
I am pretty strongly in agreement that the expansion of higher education was mostly bad, that things like sending nursing students back to community college would be very good. But every first world society has near-universal high school education. I'm not sure about that chesterton's fence being avoidable.
hydroacetylene
8hr ago
No, the old testament very explicitly condemns cross dressing- although from the perspective of believers who hold the prohibition still in force, the more common example is women in pants.
hydroacetylene
9hr ago
Abbott's have much more staying power, because he's doing this mostly by stacking admins at flagship universities with Abbott-aligned technocrats. Yes it works slower but it probably works better.
hydroacetylene
9hr ago
College exists for a reason. We need higher educated people in order to run the society we choose to live in.
hydroacetylene
9hr ago
If you don't like unions, credentialism, and regulatory capture now I have some bad news for you about guilds...
hydroacetylene
9hr ago
From what I know most forms of testing for jobs that is basically an IQ test are illegal because of civil rights and disparate impact. We could get rid of college if every job application had a 10 min IQ test. Instead we do an expensive proxy system for IQ.
Oh please. I've been IQ tested for jobs before in a field that everyone wants to get more blacks into and in which hiring managers will straight up tell people 'yeah, we'll give a black guy a chance, but they're lazy and don't learn, so we wind up having to fire them'.
hydroacetylene
11hr ago
Bill Gates is ugly for a famous person but attractive compared to the average person.
????
He is not attractive compared to the average person.
hydroacetylene
15hr ago
Is support for communism not stigmatized in Poland, Ukraine, Croatia, etc?
hydroacetylene
15hr ago
The defining feature of woke is the Omnicause, so third wave feminism is the obvious thing to point to.
Right, there’s black supremacists who believe in woke narratives about race, not woke because of their views of women/palestine/the concept of gender. Theres TERFs, actual feminists, not woke because of their beliefs about sex/gender and because they don’t care about Palestine or race. Etc, etc.
hydroacetylene
16hr ago
Right wing small liberal arts colleges are not in great financial shape right now either.
hydroacetylene
16hr ago
Is AOC actually walking back woke 1 ideas she wholeheartedly embraced?
hydroacetylene
1d ago
I mean, turn on the classic rock station in the morning- it’s definitely going to be a show aimed at men. Go to original Star Wars trilogy showings and compare the audience to a recent release. Tom Clancy and Larry Correia are still selling very well.
And thats leaving out the core male popular entertainment interest, which is sports.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Considering the average American doesn’t know how to drive a manual, thats probably true.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
There is a huge shortage of people qualified to be commercial pilots, for the simple reason that the qualification is very very expensive, and if he’d acquired it he was almost guaranteed to be able to climb the ranks assuming he doesn’t screw up. It’s plausible that if he was a black woman with an identical resume he’d climb the ranks much faster, but still. If he’d gone to flight school and somehow acquired the minimum flying hours he’d be working as a pilot- possibly for fedex rather than American at first, but that’s normal career progression.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Indeed, if you have a burning desire to fly a plane, you can book a private lesson with the limitation being ‘can pay $100/hr’- like, right now, if you want.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
You’ll notice what racial groups aren't on that list.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Woke is still pretty close to generic liberal Democrat stuff- they’ve certainly backed down a bit on race, but not on sex and gender, and Palestine is a woke issue thats eaten thé others.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Do you really not see the difference between mid-late 20th century pop culture on the one hand and the SCA and classical literature on the other?
hydroacetylene
1d ago
I’ve noticed a vast difference in interest in classic rock and 80’s music- women who’re into that stuff are mostly that age.
Men seem to like not-new movies at much higher rates. Men also seem pretty happy reading mostly not-new releases. Note that I'm not talking classic novels here- men just generally seem to read novels that sold well when released in the late twentieth century or early 2000’s.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
Ok, but I think a big part of it that we see over and over again is that men are just more willing to enjoy last year's release while women want something new and trendy.
I'm not talking about old school high culture, here. Men listen to classic rock. Men read 70's and 80's sci fi, or Tom Clancy novels from before 9/11. Men watch older movies. Women seem to want new releases in all sorts of popular culture stuff. Over time, that makes the entertainment industry skew more and more towards chasing a female audience, because men will decide it's dumb and go watch the original star wars trilogy and listen to the rolling stones much faster.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
Nobody said she was making good decisions in her long term direction(see: this woman's entire story), just better ones in specific details. That's why he was in a relationship with her.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
Yes, they want that distributed to The Good People(themselves) and not to whoever can pay for it and wants to live there.
Typo.
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