hydroacetylene
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hydroacetylene
2hr ago
Didn't Argentina retain wealthy after they had plenty of industrialization, and a succession of economically illiterate buffoons in the rose house destroyed any semblance of fiscal or macroeconomic sanity until that was no longer true, and then they had a national reorganization process which lost a war, and then they had hyperinflation?
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
It was a renegotiation in bad faith already. The settlement before destroying the confederate monuments had been mostly uncontroversial in the sense of few paying much attention to it.
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
White converts to Islam exist- as well as Mohammedans who naturally have white skin(even many Arabs appear physically indistinguishable from Italic or Iberian peoples; to say nothing of Anatolian turks or Dagestanis or Tatars). I suggest you ask them; I continue to believe that Mohammedanism being an ally of convenience to the left, and leftists being afraid of Mussulmen, explains more than skin colour(blacks get in trouble with CPS all the time) in how much the rules apply to them.
hydroacetylene
15hr ago
People with crappy or heavily subsidized health insurance.
hydroacetylene
19hr ago
Based on productivity per worker or per hour worked, the most productive people in the world are whites. Oriental countries barely keep up while working twice the hours after a punishing grind that makes no one want to have kids because it sucks so much.
hydroacetylene
21hr ago
India does build high civilization. It utterly fails to make its dregs benefit from it- they worship toilets instead of using them- but they're quite capable of building it.
hydroacetylene
21hr ago
Many incidents add up.
hydroacetylene
21hr ago
Americans buy 2 liter bottles or 12 oz cans, I don't know where that's coming from.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Maybe public schools should win more loyalty from the normies.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Yes, but most of that was aimed at the third world. The panic about working class fertility was more to do with unsupervised youths(nobody wants zillions of teen boys running around doing whatever they want), welfare concerns, and teen pregnancy.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Because men and women are different, that's why.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Tradcaths do lots of tech work, law, trades, other jobs that are Basically Necessary and Useful for a Functioning 1st World Society and have a TFR above 3. Even Mormons still have a healthy 2.5ish fertility rate(they hamstring themselves discriminating against converts, but so does everyone else).
hydroacetylene
1d ago
When they work for yankees who rely on planet of cops robust ticket writing to attempt to balance out their fiscal mismanagement, sure.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
He 'hates western people' does not imply 'he loves Africans'- my read of him is that he prefers brahmins, han, other orientals to whites.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Serbia pushed the US to the brink in Olympic basketball quite recently.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Importing the third world to make up for their own native working class's low fertility, which looked like a good idea at the time, but wasn't.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Archbishops Pierre Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc and Carlos Costa Duarte both consecrated a rather lot of people, sometimes for money and sometimes for being asked nicely. The former is mostly known for consecrating traditionalists(and one gay Nazi Spaniard who declared himself pope in a hallucinatory fit and founded a cult, which is mostly schizophrenia today but maintains a few traditional aesthetics) illicitly but those are his less problematic consecrations. Obtaining valid holy orders is done by all manner of people who are dedicated enough, most of them because they're crazy.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Presumably, they do better than two twenty year olds getting married because there's a real adult and a quasi-adult, rather than two quasi adults. Yes, that says all sorts of things about power dynamics in the relationship, which is the reason to look real hard at the guy who claims to want this(not nonsense about his browser history). But if he intends to marry her in a timely manner and treat her well, I mean, women are supposed to submit to their husbands anyways.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
The Palmarians are more of an enclosed cult that pretended to be tradcath long enough to convince a senile bishop who was unaware that Vatican II happened to ordain them bishops than a serious organization. Yes they're attention grabbing but they're also the brainchild of a schizophrenic gay Nazi and I wouldn't read too much into them as a reflection of... anything except themselves. Thuc consecrated a lot of people, at Palmar de Troya and the seminary professors in Mexico(who founded sedevacantism) are the only two anyone pays attention to; but he was a wandering dementia patient who happened to be a war refugee archbishop. Predictably, the Palmarians have seen lots of exodus to do various inane things, including one of their antipopes.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
Traditional Catholics are not Orthodox for lots of reasons. Shared, uh, dislike of Vatican II is not enough to bridge serious disagreements about moral theology(indeed, the Orthodox have exactly the same moral theological weaknesses that the Trads complain about liberal hierarchs careening towards), very different history and devotional life, and a different set of dogmatic theology(the SSPX agrees, uncritically, with everything in Ott; they just have reservations about Vatican II- and specifically, a handful of paragraphs that the Vatican doesn't see able to name them as dissenting from, despite their criticisms). People really believe things.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
the SSPX also doesn't have "lay members"
They have a third order, whose members are lay members of the SSPX. Not what's usually meant, but what the term technically refers to.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
They're a whacko cult with Catholic aesthetics, they no longer believe Catholic doctrine(although many of their doctrines are strange recombinations of distortions of Catholic doctrine- eg the virgin Mary being present in the Eucharist) and have altered most of Catholic ritual beyond all recognition.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
Ten and seventeen are very different ages, and it is in no way inconsistent to treat them that way. You are, presumably, ok with, say, 32 and 50- maybe a bit weird, but few people would say 'it's a problem'- even though when 50 was 32 32 was way too young to be dating adults(or, I would say, anyone at all).
hydroacetylene
2d ago
I have a couple of things to say.
The SSPX were morons to do this. One of their new bishops is a nutjob, 'crisis' doesn't hold water when you do it after Francis, and it's unclear why they were unwilling to engage in the Vatican's 'dialogue'- what was so urgent about needing to ordain bishops on this particular day? There's a lot of SSPX faithful, which I have been and almost was again, before the consecrations were announced. More bishops isn't a particularly unreasonable request with that many, and that spread out, a set of people. But bishops need to have jobs to do, and the Vatican will not approve bishops that are not appointed to a hierarchical position.
There seems to be genuine sympathy for the SSPX position from most of the hierarchy. I wasn't paying attention(nor around to) in '88. But the SSPX being a bit painted into a corner is a reality of the situation in a way it wasn't in 1988. There appears to be no one left under the illusion that there is a short term easy solution; even professor Grillo doesn't appear to believe that the Vatican can simply dismiss traditionalist concerns.
We were, in January, very likely to switch to the SSPX over impatience with the FSSP's tolerance for unrelated schizophrenia and pastoral insensitivity. That obviously went on hold in February and is now shelved more-or-less indefinitely. There are, to be clear, perfectly valid pastoral reasons to prefer SSPX priests, they don't tolerate dramatics in their chapels, don't tolerate trying to tie the faith to unrelated right-wing schizoidism, make sure there's a strong community life despite their limited resources, and crack down hard on things that need to be cracked down on. They're excellent confessors and excellent homilists. I wish, not for the first time, that Fellay had been able to talk the society into signing Benedict XVI's framework.
In other news about the society-
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Their oldest new bishop is 45(pretty close to the practical minimum for episcopal ordination in the regular hierarchy). They've also ordained the youngest, uh, tracked bishop in the world yesterday; Bishop Marc Hannappier is only 36, and is younger than any novus ordo bishop, any known sedevacantist bishop, any Orthodox bishop. This is what a high TFR looks like in practice.
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Cardinal Fernandez, Cardinal Parolin, and Pope Leo himself are all expressing uncharacteristic hope for a speedy resolution to the crisis. This is not the attitude I would expect them to have. Two of the three were quite anti-traditionalist under the last pontificate.
Have you been to any of the sunbelt megasprawls?
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