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ThisIsSin

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If you are pretending seeing a hairy man's ass in a dress with a red thong is as good as seeing Ursula Andress ascend from the water of the Bahamas

You misunderstand. Ursula Andress's socioeconomic interest is the reason why I must pretend seeing a hairy man's ass in a dress is good, and why I must pretend desiring a younger, hotter version of her is bad.


In your original statement, you conflated the two by saying

They are obviously bad, like child obscenity is obviously bad.

And the answer I had for you is that you should stop conflating the two, for your concept of "child obscenity" is both trivially gamed and unequally enforced (by women who fear their own ugliness/inevitable devaluation that they ban anything more beautiful than them [with that excuse] and equate ugliness to beauty) with the ultimate intention to compromise your proper exercise of political power.

So the fact you even have it as a category has resulted in your kids being forced to see the drag shows in the first place, whether or not you're simping respecting your (present or future) wife's power by equating them as equally bad.

I brought receipts to back up my claims, but here's one more thought for you: the places that produce the highest amount of child obscene content has the lowest problem with drag shows (and, though they may have many cross-dressers- even an above-average amount at times, especially in their media- they aren't shoving themselves in your face or behaving anything like a Western woman-approved-drag-queen does).

So I assert that the men and women there, for a variety of reasons, appear to respect each other's interests more. I hope that intentionally hampering your ability to understand why that is- because you're afraid or offended, because it's against your religion, or because you're just plain lazy- has few consequences for your future children, for your ideas of how you must protect them are incoherent.

"The bunch of exceptions that were invented contrary to 1A worked 100 years ago" was literally what paved the way for your modern problems in the first place. A mere retvrning to those exceptions won't solve anything.

Sure, but to what degree can a selfish employer solve that issue? If a black man has a higher than mean IQ for his race, that means that now his time can now be bought, at a bargain price, and so I can get away with paying him less with the same amount of profit, which is what I want. I do better, my competition does worse because they were all "poopoo peepee, it's too much trouble for me" (which is how racism does its damage, and the crime-of-the-heart against which we want to convict). Yes, this doesn't last- because as he gains experience and credibility my ability to maintain the arbitrage decreases- but I can still find them and exploit it because I'm unwilling to listen if and when my moral compass tells me black men are inherently bad. That is itself labor and risk, as the normie sees it; should I not be justly rewarded for my effort [as compared to theirs]?

In this way we see that sufficiently-advanced mercantilism mitigates racism: indeed, these societies tend to converge on being less racist than others for this reason. (They're the least sexist, too, for similar reasons.)

I believe IBM is on the record, verbatim, as explaining that this is why they were willing to hire gay men in the '90s.

You are correct that it fails to solve racism. In your example, the fact that the reason the black man's labor was worth less remains caused by- and not even himself- but by the existence of other people that share his skin color being inherently worse than the median man of another color. One could make the eugenic argument that his success permits him to make more of himself, diluting the pool of 'people who look like him sucks ass' over time, but that doesn't happen for free (he's actually liable to reproduce less, not more, and you still have regression to the mean to worry about- which is an underrated benefit to affirmative action re: society offers, as part of his pension, that his "failsons" won't be left behind).

Instead, they are regarded with increased scrutiny by coworkers, as there is no longer a guarantee that they were hired based on their skills.

How the co-worker men feel doesn't matter: they have no power to do anything about it, and they know it.

And you can't measure "the degree to which the State induces quiet quitting" in anything outside of a vibes-based manner- you can't go to your boss, or do a risk assessment about it, because even if you did selfish women would [ab]use the current law to throw you in jail for strike-breaking!

The differences in crime rates would be caused by nature or nurture, neither of which the law is capable of controlling directly.

This is why I don't believe for a second that the "crime rate" is actually more of a man thing. Women are just as destructive; assuming equality, we should expect them to be responsible for half of all [anti-social behavior which merits prosecution, or 'crime' for short]. But the ways in which women crime are a lot less identifiable, a lot less cut and dry, than the ways in which men commit them.

So a legal system- one based on evidence and precedent- is the wrong tool to hold women to account for that.

In the same way that 90% of schoolchildren convicted for fighting are male. You can't prosecute bullying or exclusion, which are the ways women destroy each other, with a zero-tolerance policy based on who convinces who to throw the first punch.

And if you want to tell me "well, women destroying each other isn't as big a deal as it is when men do it"... well, that's not equality now, is it?

it is in my best interests that the (generally) less belligerent half of mankind has the franchise

How did you think the men got the idea to go to Verdun in the first place? The female of the species is deadlier precisely because it orders you to death on its behalf, and so you have the basic principal-agent problem.

The biological imperative for men is to go to war and die; the biological imperative for women is to be worth it. If we want to disarm that, and I think it is a net good to disarm it, both sides need to stand down. Right now, only men have [fallen into economic hardship and been forced to].

I have no faith women won't order me to war because some foreign king personally offended them; I have no reason to believe that obeying them will go well for me.

Wouldn't it be a contradiction for any woman to become a thought leader as an anti-feminist?

Maybe?

But come on, that's like asking why there are no black men in the KKK, or why an Ashkenazi does not place emphasis on the latter part of their name. With the added dimension that, if you're asking why tomboys don't do this... men don't really like doing this either, so why would a woman who is closer to understanding to how men think -> "complaining is just a you problem, get good" embrace this either? I guess you could ask the same question of ex-women, but they're too small of a group to do that.

It doesn't make socioeconomic sense for an average woman to publicly do that. Privately, sure, but it's simply unhealthy to be a Uncle Tom strike-breaker in public for the same reasons it was unhealthy for mid-20th century men. The best you're going to get is how Charlie Kirk's widow acts.

You misunderstand.

My argument is that legal equality itself is something inherently giving preferential treatment to women.

Women have enough social power to force men to treat them [more than] fairly already; by your words, you prove that the same does not hold true for men.

This is reflected by the fact that, even if you did write the laws perfectly neutrally (and in most nations they are not), they'll only be enforced in favor of women.

Thus, the only fair way is for there to be no law.

Granted, you could do some unfair laws- if you assume men and women are already equal, then the number of crimes committed against them should match, and having quotas for how many cases can be prosecuted (if no man comes in claiming workplace discrimination, that means it isn't happening, so no woman gets to do it either; if no man is demanding Title IX redress, then assuming things are already fair, then no woman gets it either that year) might solve that kind of abuse.

but this time we learn from experience and don't pass laws that escalate it, should be possible

No, this is impossible.

Selective prosecution means it doesn't matter how fairly you write equality law.

Which means if you want fairness (and aren't at the same time doing an overhaul of the justice system to prevent that) then you can't have equality law.

I think you can make the strong case that, in the modern economy, women are better suited to the working world.

So basically, the only gender demanding affirmative action is also the one that from an objective view would be paying a penalty for.

That's kind of what's being litigated now, and why it's being litigated now. Basically, men only make 80% on the dollar in a system that is to a point set up to advantage women, and women are very interested in making sure that is never fixed.

If equality is to be true- if men and women are to have equal moral worth- this needs to be equalized. And I think it would be wise to note the previous answer, "strict legal equality", resulted in selective enforcement of various equality laws, which was how the gynosupremacy got established in the first place- so it might not be the answer now.

(You) have chosen to flaunt some orcish beast woman A and asked me to contemplate whether that monstrosity is perhaps as beautiful as Galadriel woman B

My retort writes itself.

This is kind of wondering-out-loud. If the populations of the countries most affected suffered more simply because of mass hysteria, then I'm underrating how much wars, which are a far more justified than "scared of the uncommon cold" is, should ideally cost.

This is a direct result of Canadian federal policy.

Which is why I want the culture of the people that voted for it utterly destroyed, as do the other 49% of Canadians.

A simple '51st' would probably be fine so long as the US mandates the new state incorporate its system of "prevent urban New England and California from imposing the dictatorship they want", because those are the people, and that is the culture, that causes the vast majority of the problems here. The soap and ballot boxes are in the rearview mirror.

Those 49% of Canadians were already moving that way before you got involved, of course.

Total global economic disruption from this war is likely to be on the order of $1T by end of the year.

Well, $1T sure does sound expensive. What fraction of a COVID-19 is that?

Conservatives do things; things are done to progressives.

But that's a contradiction in terms, because "conservatism" is kind of the definition of not doing things, whereas progressivism is about progress and liberalism is about maintaining the controlled chaos and flexibility out of which progress emerges.

Therefore, we must conclude that:

  • Those who call themselves 'conservatives' are in actual fact liberals/progressives, because they do things, and in the traditional left-right view are left-wing
  • Those who call themselves 'progressives' (or 'liberals') are in actual fact conservatives, because things are done to them, and are right-wing

And if we rephrase it as follows:

  • Men do things
  • Things are done to women

Then we can see that women are by definition the conservative influence they always have been, and men the liberal one. So men now find more common cause with "conservatives" because they are not actually conservative, or rather, what they promise is more liberal than what women want.

Media is generally hostile to left-wing causes when economic conditions reward rent-seeking more than R&D (which is why they were on the left's side back in the '50s-'70s, why they are not now, and to a point why they [falsely] claim to still be left), and the way they prompt that is generally by spamming any plausible invocations of Copenhagen Ethics as possible. So the behavior you see from them tracks.

As for "Republicans Leftists pounce", the reason the left can't benefit from the right violating their own morality is because the right is in control of what that morality is in the first place. Which is not a surprise; they literally exist to be aggrieved as a negotiating strategy. The left fights the right by creating and proving things, memes being the fastest and most well-known example (alternately, consider the phrase 'the left can't meme'; as explained above, this phrase gets who's left and right backwards).

The correct male/liberal behavior is just to ignore them. Once they fight it, they legitimize the framing of women/conservatives that they can't do anything right, and it's over. But, on that note...

And if there's no possible way to frame something they did as something that was done in response to something else, then they'll simply say it happened, not that it was done.

...you sure you aren't Sloot's alt account?


I don't think Clark could even conceive of the idea of a woman doing something awful without having been interfered with in childhood.

Sounds like she's the kind of woman who should try to conceive with an appropriately assertive/attractive $age_of_consent-year-old man.

They are obviously bad, like child obscenity is obviously bad. Arguments that they are artistic are ridiculous and not credible.

Depictions of child murder and the machinery associated with those acts is an overwhelmingly popular, billion-dollar franchise.
Particularly among its target demographic: children.

(Christian author, too. He wrote it at what was going to be the end of his career in game development. Perhaps God has blessed him.)

The thing about the great debate about why violence in media is different from sex, etc. is that at its root, it's a claim that "obscenity" is just smuggling an isolated demand for rigor around sex. I wrote about the reasons why that happens yesterday, and the argument that you're probably going to make about "but if you normalize it, it'll inspire people to violate children/woman Bs" will be answered by:

  • gesturing at the rate of child murder and sex abuse (both over and under age) dropping over time
  • gesturing at the inverse correlation between the acts and the availability and quantity of media depicting said acts
  • gesturing at the fact that the only actor who ever demands censorship is woman A, and as we've established, this is entirely for self-serving reasons (deontological arguments about the sanctity of sex are covered by the "social conservative" section)
  • gesturing quizzically

So what, we just don't get to discuss the ways in which children actually act because it makes (You) butthurt about the fact it happens in the first place? Did you grow up unusually sheltered? Did you close your eyes and ears when your elementary school teacher told you not to look up sex.com on the computers, know a friend who changed someone's background to porn images, or fail to notice that list of "sites you'd better not go to in the computer lab" was just a list of where the good stuff was? Did you fail to notice how every 9 year old knows what a lesbian is? Were you not cut into the middle school plans to smuggle some booze in and fuck on the camping trip (or did you just ignore it when they got caught)? Did your parents not tell you they took up smoking in middle school? Have you ever shown her yours, and did she show you hers? Did your parents assume you were masturbating far before you even knew what that was?

I mean, obviously the answer to all those questions is no- far be it from me to accuse someone of tactically forgetting things just to win an argument, and I'm not sure which is worse, a bad memory or a boring life. (Perhaps a bad memory is an evolved response to the existential horror of a boring life.) But when I remember that all of those things did actually happen, I notice that if I wished to accurately write about characters of that age, I'm cut out of a significant portion of human experience and motivation.

Which is why the courts- at least, in countries and laws laid down in times where woman A's power was at its weakest... like the US in the '70s- are so concerned with narrowly defining "obscenity" in the first place. I'm sure you've watched Stranger Things (S1), and perhaps Adolescence (at least the first episode) as well, and noticed the scenes that features a child character pissing themselves. That's its own tag on PornHub (and others), so obviously it's obscene, on its face (or rather, in its pants or shorts; not all of us are that flexible)- it's sexual domination of the forced-to-piss.

But the case in Stranger Things is not obscene, and the argument (or perhaps "compromise" is a better word here) for why is that the sexual humiliation of that boy wasn't the ultimate goal of the work. By contrast, in Adolescence, the sexual humiliation of the boy is very obviously the ultimate purpose of the work, so it is obscene. (And of course you had government officials worldwide promoting it for that reason. But this is the Epstein class we're talking about, so Kier Starmer advocating this child porn be shown in schools ain't exactly a shocker.)

Not to say the authors aren't getting off on kids pissing themselves; the author of Made in Abyss is... uh, not exactly a closeted pedophile. (Though, you could argue those instances specifically- though not necessarily others- are less harmful, for there's not really an exploitative sexual dynamic between characters there... even though other scenes in the work are a lot more explicit. That's probably closer to how a kid would assess it, actually; the entire conceit of the show is, beyond exceptional visual quality, about how a kid in that situation would assess stuff. Which is why it can't exist without the other sexual parts or in any other form. Stephen King's It has a similar thing going on with its depiction of child sex, as I understand it.)

Yet the argument there is the presumption of mind-reading. Take that picture of that little Gook girl running away from her village, terrified, in a state of napalm-induced undress. Now, I get that not many people have fetishes for Uncle Sam's massive dick dropping hot sticky loads all over Asian girls, but I definitely believe someone has found sexual pleasure in that photo.

So is it "obscenity" or not? To what extent was it necessary to create that to prove the point, and to what degree even can you claim to judge that? It's clearly sexually charged and sexually exploitative (it's relevant that it's a little girl, and it's relevant that she's exposed that way)- if it was a decrepit old man the response would be very different. It threatens the power of women if it is not; it binds your ability to know what the cost of "the nation's best interests" are if it is.

So I assert the only feasible answer- from a law that binds society itself to protect it from its most selfish impulses- is "none of it is", as a basic anti-corruption/anti-oligopoly measure from an interest group that half the population will someday belong to.

Which is exactly the kind of thing 1A (and its weaker imitations worldwide) exists to guard against!

Psychiatrists put together the theory that serious abuse by trusted figures who applied shame or coercion changed how the victim saw the world, and this seemed to show up everywhere from suicidal ideation to depression to difficulty forming friendships to norm abuses to extremes of over- and under-expression of sexuality.

Being forced to submit to something your biology and instinct tells you not to has some seriously negative psychological effects.

But, that's not unique to sex. Obviously.

Even getting held captive during a robbery does this to people; so does any shitty authority figure lording over a captive audience- boarding schools, concentration camps, prisons, etc. can all prompt this shift in behavior. Shitty jobs with no other opportunity can prompt this ("sleeping with the boss" is not a meme for no reason).

So then the question becomes "why do we still honor the isolated demand for rigor for sexual causes of those issues?", and that has 2 main answers- evidentiary trail, and female market power.

The evidentiary trail argument is there because it's easy to prosecute. "Look in $orifice and take sample, determine origin of that sample, compare birth certificate. If under $age, the person who made that sample is guilty." Open and shut. And it's not like sex isn't a means of forcing submission (or a prize thereof); it's just the only thing that comes with the territory that you can actually prosecute without having a crack team sort through every text message ever. (Proving gaslighting/sabotage is very difficult; that's why people do it.)


Female market power is a bit more complicated, but it's an instinctive collective bargaining thing. Let's say woman A has nothing else to offer but her submission (her "self") to man X, and let's assume there's woman B who's more attractive (specifically, younger) or more desperate than woman A.

(Just like human biology, we're ignoring the existence of contraceptives and assuming the "self" may only be sold once at full price- each subsequent selling, if at all permitted, devalues the product.)

Woman A has every incentive to render woman B unable to sell her self to man X.
To do that, she will come up with every excuse- usually (and ironically) "too young to know better"- to convince other men to visit death upon man X no matter how low B's price goes. Now, woman A can sell her self to man X, and she gets to set the price of her submission, for man X now has no alternative if he would like a woman. Her "wage", her "worth", has increased relative to man X due to the absence of woman B.

(More generally, this is just how markets work. Collective bargaining is inherently an oligopoly.)

Now, let's assume that a picture of a woman is worth some fraction of her self. Woman A will want to ban woman B from doing that as well, and it'll be done by complaining about how wicked man X would ever be to buy B's pictures. When woman A is pulling the ladder up behind her, she'll go on and on about how the choices were "work or starve", blame society and her family for giving her that impression, complain about workplace conditions and the assigned tasks, claim she had to use drugs to keep up, go on about about how horrible it was to grow up poor, and blame man X for knowing she should have been paid more.

(This is just how unions justify themselves.)

What limits woman A's ability to control the market is how much enforcement power she can muster. She wasn't able to muster very much in the '60s and '70s, but in the '80s her relative power expanded and that of men contracted. So now it's man against man in the white-knighting competition rather than woman against woman in the casual sex competition; just as woman B must undercut woman A when men get richer relative to women, man Y's only option is similar to woman B's would be in a free market: undercutting man X by promising woman A a higher price- less submission, more resources offered, or by publicly swearing an oath to woman A that he will harm man X should he prefer the superior product/better deal that B offers, or if X ultimately fails to pay A what she believes she is worth.

(This is why ground-level anti-union/anti-oligopoly violence is ultimately counterproductive. The more sellers you take out of the market, the more powerful those who remain become.)


Most of the claimed issues that "social conservatives" have- all of the ones you have listed- is just the same kind of justification for why man X and his desire to maximize his own value is evil and must be suppressed. They strategically pretend (and eventually will believe for real) that [the interests of] woman A morally outranks man X. At the same time, and for the same reasons, woman B is strategically denied any notion of agency whatsoever; it will be argued that that she is a "mere child, helpless and confused, and should run along while the adults are talking". This is all to convince Y to support A's suppression of X, which is who A generally wants to sell her self to. (Talk is cheap, after all.)

They must also pretend that men's wage has never decreased relative to women's relative to its peak. If that happened, Y might stop paying to defend A's interests. But if A can successfully deem B to be "a child", then interest in B can be righteously condemned as child rape. But because that is a lie, it creates an externality resulting in more actual child rape. (If the market were working correctly, A would be liable for that externality, not X. It actually helps A when a [future] B is raped: fewer Bs mean less competition for A, damaged Bs mean less competition for A, and it's a kickback to the Y that did it.)

And yes, the reason it's become continually worse over the last 100 years for men is because, outside of 1950-1970, their wages have dropped compared to women. From 1950-1970, the reverse occurred, which you know as the Sexual Revolution (when A's power to prevent X from buying B failed.)

40 years of decline in man's relative wage, though, and as you can see we're way past minimum (w)age now. The current frontier is "he ended up being poorer than he said he was, so the sex was rape" and "the court is not interested in any of the evidence that proves the rape allegations are fabricated" (labor dispute, A vs. X), "boyfriend given the Scarlet Letter for a nude selfie the girlfriend sent unprompted" (legitimacy dispute, A vs. Y [and sometimes B]), and "young men, provided they are not white, are permitted to rape young women" (pollution, A vs. B [and sometimes Y]).


This is examination of revealed preference, nothing more. There are no value claims to be found here; buyers aren't intrinsically evil, sellers aren't intrinsically good. Both are life, and they simply are.

But these two things- market dynamics, and what the enforcers of the power that makes it so tell themselves- are the precise reason why AoC laws (as one of several demonstrations of the market power of woman A) have remained one-way ratchets for the last 40 years, and will continue to be so long as current market conditions remain the same.

(re: @dailydogma)

Artillery is only relevant for exceptional expensive rounds

Not necessarily. Artillery is relevant when there are bigger things you want to explode, like proper infantry columns, tanks, and whatnot. That said, the cutting-edge of anti-tank artillery rounds is itself a drone. If you're dug in, shelling the area is a lot less effective.

In this context, drones are very sophisticated anti-personnel cruise missiles that operate in the same effective range as a mortar (that have some anti-tank usage as well; it's not hard to imagine sticking a Bonus "warhead" onto a drone, but it would be quite inefficient to do that because AI targeting and spotting is good enough and you have much better effective range with that).

That's fantastic for dug in positions and trench warfare, because you can just crash the explosive right into/on top of the enemy (and perhaps the only scenario in which a shotgun could be effective against such a weapon)- it just takes time and effort to do that right now because you have to have your guy sitting there driving the thing, and you have to spend money and drones to train him too.

I think that drone response is itself mostly going to be automated, but building those kinds of things takes time. Micro-caliber CIWS systems, EW systems listening for a drone lifting off prompting immediate and automated counterbattery fire, etc. They'll get there, they just aren't there now.

Pretty much, yeah. Canada is mostly huddled around the border because, with the exception of Alberta (and why they're the natural seat of any Western Canadian government), that's where the good land is, and it's also as close as it can possibly be to its largest trading partner.

It does depress me to be talking about this. Maybe if I had grown up in a different time I'd have my elbows raised just as high, and we're ultimately talking about the possible/eventual erasure of peoples and cultures that still ultimately may have value.

But the culture in power, for ever- that in a different time once could and did respect the value of mine- has already clearly been erased, by the Americans, long ago (we venerate the American flag[1] so much we paint it on crosswalks and prosecute its desecration, and the ruling power holds the Blue view that they're bringing civilization to the wasteland from their urban exclaves). So I'm now in the unfortunate position of being dominated by the excesses of American culture even more than I ever think I would be if they were actually in charge, because were we under American law, I'd have far more robust cultural and legal protections against that.

Instead I suffer unilateral domination by that culture that I know I have no hope of checking... unless I am under American law, with an American vote, and American freedom of movement/employment.

[1] That rainbow one with all the chevrons is an American flag; it is intended by a certain subculture to replace the Stars and Stripes. All this stuff is what Blue Americans want for themselves, but they're not restrained by law and process here.

I've worked with trans women that would be the spitting image of that link, modulo a purple sweater if it's winter

Judging by what I have hanging in my closet I am intimately familiar with the concept (and why you would do that).

But I can't wear that outside (or on camera), for the same reasons I would have problems conducting same-sex PDA- others have plenty of good, evolved, biological reasons to find that disgusting and off-putting, and I feel that's going to get in the way of my other objectives. (And even worse, it also marks me as belonging to the faction that gets off on making that fact everyone else's problem, so I believe I would alienate both the traditionalists and the low-information liberals upon whose support I largely depend. Something about "fisher of men".)

So now I get to suffer the "if my initial conditions and social circle were different I conceivably could have gone that way" outlook for a very good reason, and get to be just as much on the back foot on that topic as any of the dozen other principled libertarian is. I guess the only prosecution for bad actors is that they simply find themselves mysteriously excluded, but the State (and its supporters) are naturally only interested in making sure I bear the costs for those bad actors.

It's just so very hard to get worked up about this when your region has been intentionally completely locked out of political power by the design of the country in the first place (and even if we do win the election- or at least don't get BTFO- the House won't respect those results anyway!), and so very hard to see the nation as a coherent place worth preserving as a consequence. Yes, the unique culture of my area might be erased in the process, but it was going to be erased by Ottawa anyway; what difference does it make if Washington does that instead?

They both show the same constant, callous, uncompromising indifference as far as I'm concerned.

I don't sympathize, and won't volunteer to die, for people who have continually demonstrated their hatred of me- that is the price of my sympathy. No American ever called me a nigger. (Or, well, okay, maybe that's not really true. But they are 100% a contributing factor to why my 'fellow' Canadians do that though.)

It's completely different from how actual trans women dress

If only that were true. Every ex-man I know has bad fashion sense (they all do the falsetto thing, too).

If they looked like this, I'd be a lot more OK with it; if I had to cross-dress in casual [or business casual] environments, that is what I would select. Or just the underwear, for a more privately/inherently sexual example that is invisible unless you're doing it wrong (and provides the majority of any sensory benefits for those so declined- even the male attempts at a "panty"-style brief don't work because they're still made of heavier cloth and have a seam parallel to the axis of dangle, where the female ones are made of lighter material, fit a bit baggier on men, and the front is completely flat and seamless with nothing to bother the relevant areas).

To the point I'm not really sure you could meaningfully call that cross-dressing; it's just shorts with one less leg hole and integrated undergarment, and certain models are nearly built for men to wear them (if the fit was slightly different; a little tight in the crotch and wide in the hips for obvious reasons, but that's par for the course when you're wearing something not actually meant for you).

But it's not just putting the clothing on because I felt like it, it's being seen/others' reaction to putting the clothing on, whereas that's something I would want to avoid at all costs. And that's hard to prosecute because that's a woman thing (and ironically one of the stronger arguments for transgenderism being treated as a legitimate mental condition)- literally, the fashion police- which perhaps is part of why 'no crossdressing' [implication: no bad crossdressing] was at one time a reasonable compromise.

Vancouver and Island, West[1], Ontario[2], St. Lawrence[3], Quebec, Maritimes [4], Newfoundland/Labrador [5], North [6].

Those are all the states you need.

[1] Might need a couple of subdivisions due to geography, but the GVRD and Island are distinct nations compared to everywhere east of that. Removing the crooked law that banned all greenfield development in the rest of BC would be a massive boon to that area.
[2] I mean the part of Ontario on the East of the Canadian Shield, but excluding the parts less than 100km from the St. Lawrence- basically, excluding the region below.
[3] This region is the most culturally belligerent and needs a containment area so that it can't run roughshod over the rest of its area like it does now. It includes Montreal, for if they did not exist, Quebec would have separated 30 years ago.
[4] They'll say they have distinct cultures. If they had any cultural or economic output maybe I'd agree, and they have the same fundamental problem- the destruction of the Grand Banks and shitty geographic location- in common.
[5] Technically still Maritime, but I don't think NB/NS/PEI should have to suffer Newfie English being an official language. Different weather and with much less connection to the rest of the country.
[6] Dividing line at 54'40".

I don't understand why I should be humiliated when an entity with whom I depend on strategically offers me the right to vote on what it does, and I also want my all of my EHC that ran away to the US under NAFTA to have a reason to come back.

I was under the impression that "punish Canada" was from Trump's "Twitter" account (and a bunch of Canadian social media surrounding the issue).

But even as a Canadian I legitimately don't think Canada is in the right here. EU influence here is a problem, British influence is a problem (the LPC got into a bit of trouble with this; they were using British English, not Canadian English), and Chinese influence is a problem.

The solution floated at the beginning was "we want these things; in return, we will just straight up grant everyone citizenship". I see that trade deal (whether that one infographic is real or not) as continuing that posture, and to a point also demonstrating what Red would like to visit on Blue going forward by proxy. But I also believe in no taxation without representation, and if I have to pay taxes caused by the US, it's only fair that I get to vote on them and be protected in protesting against them under US law.

I honestly don't even want full annexation to go into effect here simply because the US is full-retard on things the Canadian identity actually had answers for, and while redistricting would ideally need to be part of the process we arguably had the better way. Blue political thought has already proven stupid enough to erase the legacy of the Underground Railway ending here and accuse the descendants of the people who made it of muhrasism just like they do the rural South, and universal healthcare started in a relative backwater province before the US populace really started to get interested in it. "Laboratories of democracy" is kind of their thing.

But I don't think the average trade war belligerent understands that, so just like when you ask a MAGA supporter what Trump has actually done for the country, I get the exact same response when I ask the Elbows Up-ers. And for the same reason- where Blue American culture has demanded the destruction of what used to be a nuanced look at the rest of the country, and the Elbows Up demographic adapted it perfectly- I think they're going to lose the(ir) nation as a consequence.

Only thing I can see is increased polarization in Canada between the people who voted for this and the people who have to pay for it. (The manufacturing sector went hard CPC last election; so did every sector that will be impacted by these tariffs. Fancy that.)

They weren't the same people, and far as I can tell still aren't. Obviously Carney and his Maple MAGA Boomer cohort don't care- they're too busy manufacturing a crisis through incompetent statesmanship to try and quell movements about kicking them out of power for ever- so it's realistically going to be up to the workers in lower Ontario to solve this.

At least they'll have a lot of time on their hands once their plants close down, especially if what the sister comment mentions comes to pass and the supply chain is destroyed. Which is kind of the risk here- if Canadian manufacturing is destroyed, then they have no reason not to just import vehicles from China [and was a huge problem when Canada hinted at doing this last time], which means a Canada pulled closer to the Chinese orbit, which is something the US can't accept.


So it does make sense for Canada to adopt the Palestine strategy of holding themselves hostage, and a bonus for the LPC since it won't cost them electorally (the areas affected have no alternative and the areas not have been so turbocharged by jingoism they'll be voting the same way at the end of the decade at least).

Which itself might make further policy interventions against Canada more likely from the D side. If the objective is to lay a massive annexation-shaped landmine under the foot of the next administration, perhaps Trump is doing a better job of that than expected.

But people mostly don't believe their nations ought to have a "real locus", a telos, or anything like this, they just want sovereignty, respect, and the ability to make deals in their self-interest.

I don't even get that in my own country; that's actually why I hope "we" lose.

Because Shakes is right- if we made the reforms necessary to actually stand up against the US, "we" would cease to be Canada any more. Carney's done the absolute bare minimum to get infrastructure projects that have been stalled for years and that's just because Alberta threatened to cut him out entirely.

Ottawa would prefer Edmonton remain underdeveloped because an intentionally underdeveloped province is easier to control, and can throw much less weight around on the Imperial stage (ironically, Canada is itself a post-national state- in other words, an empire- the imperial seat is in the area stretching between Toronto and Montreal, and every other province, including the rest of Quebec, is nothing but a vassal state).

And to be fair to the Imperials, this strategy might actually put out the fire of independence; if it does, perhaps they didn't deserve it after all.

Japan's basically the only Western country to have actually raised the age of consent in the last 100 years, although I could be wrong.

Trivial example: Canada.

However, I posit that across the entire West the age of consent is mostly a distraction. It is currently "infinite"- for consenting to sex is impossible if you are permitted to revoke that consent retroactively, which is law in basically every country, including the US.

All sex is sex work to a feminist, and once you notice these are sex worker protection laws the reasoning becomes a lot clearer. What worker protection law has become weaker in the West in the last 100 years? (And sure, there's always offshoring where you have sex, but at least one Commonwealth country claims extraterritoriality for violating minimum-age laws, because of course they do. They don't do that for worker protection laws re: offshoring, but gynosupremacists by definition take for granted the work the male sex does.)

there's the "overprotective parent" voting bloc opposing lowering the AoC.

Traditionalist fathers create feminist women, feminist women create traditionalist fathers.