The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
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The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
8hr ago
Probably something like: "Acting like a Nazi" to justify their future extrajudicial killings.
Future?. The New York Times of course decried the shooting... of the murderer.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
8hr ago
Put this together with the claim from CNN that Pretti interfered with ICE chasing people, and it seems like this guy was trying to cause an incident, and eventually managed to find some officers who screwed up. Didn't work out so well for him, though I suppose being a martyr for the cause is an old and honorable position.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
17hr ago
No looting, no burning cop cars, no trashing local businesses…
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
17hr ago
No axehead. And as we know, a fasces without an axe is just a faggot.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
18hr ago
Let a military have much input into its own insignia, and it will inevitably include skulls. Badges, pins, emblems, flags, or the literal bleached bones of the vanquished, they will be there.
Probably less now than in the past precisely because of the Nazi use.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
18hr ago
Yeah, the "protestors" have convinced me that the masks are indeed a good idea, even with the bad PR.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
18hr ago
The main point is to change the way normies encountering ICE/CBP in the street respond.
To first order there are no normies encountering ICE/CBP in the street.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
18hr ago
That is certainly not the Partieadler, though there are stylistic similarities. The 90 degree difference in wing positioning is significant. The Epinal American Cemetery eagle certainly looks a lot like the Nazi version of the Reichsadler, though. Perhaps that was just the artistic style in vogue at the time and no one thought it looked particularly Nazi.
(The difference between the Partieadler and the Reichsadler is the Partieadler faces to its left and the Reichsadler faces to its right.)
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
20hr ago
These details don't matter. ICE wearing a blue uniform isn't going to diminish the screeching and whistling by so much as tenth of a decibel.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
20hr ago
In the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, he was sent back (deported) with a bunch of other El Salvadorans who were sent back to El Salvador. He had a nonrefoulment order that was not respected, which was a fuckup on the part of DHS. If they'd done it by the book he's likely have been detained in the US until the US came up with the Guatemala idea. The Venezuelans, as far as I can tell, were not deported -- they were sent to CECOT to be detained there (still titularly in US custody), seemingly as part of some sort of hardball the US was playing with Maduro, and after Maduro agreed to take them back they were sent from CECOT to Venezuela.
As for CECOT being a torture prison, who knows? There's stories from prisoners, but you could interview prisoners in any maximum security US prison and get similar ones. Some of them would likely even be true, because prison sucks, prisoners suck, and prison guards generally suck too.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
I suppose in fairness I should ask @The_Nybbler directly, then. Does "going directly after illegal immigrants is cruel and should be verboten" mean one believes no illegal immigrant should ever be arrested and deported under any circumstance?
That does seem to be what "no person is illegal" means.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
If it's Abrego Garcia he's referring to, ICE actually DID admit error.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
PR has a territorial income tax that makes up for it. And the territorial government is corrupt and incompetent so you can be sure very few of your tax dollars go for anything you'd want them to go to.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
I'm not talking about mere warning, I'm talking about deliberately physically interposing themselves between the police and the speeders.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
I would have thought that about the current enforcement actions.
ICE actually has wide enforcement powers granted by statute law. It's just that previous administrations didn't use them so much -- some of this being that local law enforcement co-operated with ICE, making direct enforcement less necessary. Immigration enforcement is where Trump is on some of his strongest legal ground.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Incidentally, if the Puerto Ricans made a similar argument with similar fervor, it might behoove the United States to give them a senator or let them go.
Puerto Ricans do not have to pay federal income tax. And they consistently vote against independence in referenda (though a fair number of those are tainted in some way). For statehood, it's not only their interests but the interests of the rest of the country which should be considered.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Certainly ICE is not rounding up innocents. They've mistakenly detained at least a few innocents who (following the activist playbook) refused to identify themselves, but those innocents were released when identified. The illegal immigrants they've arrested, detained and/or deported may not have committed any crimes, but they were not innocent -- they were unlawfully present in the United States, and had orders of removal against them. Arresting them is ICE's job.
And, quite a few of these detained immigrants are also, in fact, serious criminals.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
2d ago
Yes, and that would be a massive political win for Trump. If ICE were absolutely impeccable and locked in, the protestors would look like fanatical lunatics, moderates/swing voters/independents would all look at them, go, "I'm not voting for the party that panders to these retards" and help Trump not get whacked in the midterms.
Is that how things were before Pretti? Before Good?
No, it wasn't.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
2d ago
Please, the blues have zero appetite for civil war.
They know there's no risk, because they can escalate arbitrarily and the reds will give up -- the courts, even red ones, won't support their actions and the bureaucracy and military won't act. At which point the blues have demonstrated that they run the country regardless of what the outcome of elections is; they win without the war.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
2d ago
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
2d ago
Every time one goes over 55 (or 65, or as much as 80) on the freeway, they are engaging in an illegal act.
Yes, and if the National Motorists Association set up teams to impede the police from catching speeders, they'd be arrested and jailed and get no support.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
2d ago
I'm fine with sending in a bunch of men to remove the cats and kittens. Especially since the people now claiming "Oh, go after the cans of tuna" favor providing free tuna by the palletload.
This sudden received indisputable wisdom that going after the employers is the best and only reasonable way to do anything about illegal immigration and, as a result, going directly after illegal immmigrants is cruel and should be verboten is not credible.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
2d ago
The world where ICE is completely professional and competent would have near identical protests and complaints to what we're seeing now, although probably with fewer deaths.
Perhaps one fewer death. The "ICE is untrained and incompetent" claim is just a backstop to the "ICE is an invading army" claim. I have watched all sorts of videos showing arrests which were claimed to be some sort of horrible, and in nearly every one, it shows an arrest more professional and with less drama than I'd expect from one on the news with local cops. To have Ross not shoot Good wouldn't be a matter of Ross being more competent and professional, it'd be a matter of Ross being omniscient.
I don't even thing protesting "enforcing lawful immigration policy" is the center of the onion here; it's "resistance to Trump". If someone with a (D) after their name wanted to enforce lawful immigration policy, we wouldn't see anything like this.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
2d ago
Fahrenheit wrote about ammonium chloride (sal ammoniac) brine and salt brine, but those two have different freezing points, both lower than 0F (-13F for ammonium chloride). It's likely he used neither, and the real fixed points were temperature of an ice-water mixture (32) and body temperature (96).
The division of the scale depends on three fixed points, which can be determined in the following manner. The first is found in the uncalibrated part or the beginning of the scale, and is determined by a mixture of ice, water and ammonium chloride or even sea salt. If the thermometer is placed in this mixture, its liquid descends as far as the degree that is marked with a zero. This experiment succeeds better in winter than in summer. The second point is obtained if water and ice are mixed without the aforementioned salts. When the thermometer is placed in this mixture, its liquid reaches the 32nd degree.
Clearly Fahrenheit knew that his 0 wasn't really fixed.
Certainly you can; antifa has been doing so for a very long time.
There is nothing holding your side back other than practical considerations. Reciprocity does not factor into it. Any time there is an argument like "What if we did it to you?", the answer is either "You would anyway" or "You already have". And usually it's both.
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