Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
Disabled Alaskan Monarchist doomer
User ID: 2666
how do we stop it happening again?"
The only answers to that question, at this point, involve literal bullets.
Well, now that I'm off ban, to clarify: I mean less "2nd amendment solutions," more Suharto.
How we stop it happening again is we get a Caesar Augustus or a Bonaparte, with the loyalty of the warriors, and the willingness to use them to purge the enemy. It's "tanks in Harvard yard" as part of going Henry VIII (or Qin Shi Huangdi) on academia.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
1yr ago
Suffice to say, if he’s re-elected,
Except this has now guaranteed that won't happen.
things could get interesting for democrats real fast.
How so? An Attorney General is only one man; how much could he do with the entire rest of the Justice Department (and probably much of the court system) actively opposing him?
So, what's keeping you around? Is there family? Friends? A love of leisure? A fear of pain or death?
Family, mostly — specifically, that the costs of disposing of my remains exceeds my net worth, and they'd be on the hook for the remainder.
Definitely not "A love of leisure" — I don't really have any enjoyable pastimes.
I've long ago given up on anything ever making me happy; the only question is if I can find some purpose to keep going through the misery, other than how it'll impact my family. ("But think of how sad they'll be" emotional blackmail is the go-to argument of all my therapists.) Otherwise, at the very least, when my Mom goes I'm done.
The problem is finding a good method that will be relatively quick and painless, and won't leave me even worse off if it doesn't work — people have survived shooting themselves in the brain, and their condition afterwards isn't pretty. (Plus, being in the psych ward after a failed attempt sucks.) Mostly, inert gas asphyxia looks like the way to go, and it doesn't cost too much to rent a helium tank (at least, not yet, but the supply is declining and price rising, so…)
Or I could take one acquaintance up on the offer he once made me to buy me a one-way ticket to Los Angeles after my mom dies, so I can attend a Caltech reunion… and then take out as many SoCal leftists with me "on my way out." As Ezra Pound once said, "I have always thought the suicide should bump off at least one swine before taking off for parts unknown." After all, that may well be my only shot at leaving a legacy behind, the only way that my existence and my pain will have had some purpose and meaning.
Edit: and may I say thank you for not resorting to the usual clichés about how life is always worth living, suicide is never the answer, yadda yadda yadda. Where else, if not a rationalist-adjacent space like this one, can I get people who will rationally assess whether or not a particular life is worth living? Who might conclude that suicide is the reasonable action (and not just tell me to KYS out of emotional animus, politics-driven or otherwise)?
...remind people that relevant truths remain relevant, duh?
Daily life in our modern world isn't enough to do that?
And still, much like "raising awareness" in general, this isn't actually doing something about the issue.
Edit: I'd recommend watching the whole video. Hopping over and over from outrage to outrage — one day "I can't believe [X] did this!", the next "I can't believe [Y] did this!" — is not productive. It is, in Parvini's metaphor, just so much slop for the right wing proles to lap up like fat, dumb pigs at a trough. Focus on the whole, not the individual minor incidents. Fight the disease, not the symptoms. And, again, don't vent online — do something.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
1yr ago
even John Roberts won't let it go.
Even after Rep Raskin and the Justice Department force Alito and Thomas to recuse themselves?
And besides, John Roberts can make his decision, and then let him try to enforce it.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
4mo ago
Is liberalism dying? If it is, is that a good thing or a bad thing to you?
Yes, and it's a good thing, because the entire "Enlightenment" political project was a mistake from the beginning.
This is a bad thing to me and a cause of some hopelessness, since America produced a great deal of good things during its heyday, and even still is doing awesome things.
This looks like cum hoc ergo propter hoc to me. I've never really bought the case for "technological determinism" whereby a society's political forms are determined entirely by its technology base, and I especially haven't seen any good arguments for the reverse, that scientific and technological progress are entirely "downstream" of particular political forms.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
6mo ago
If you are sending out feelers to organize a "gun club," do it elsewhere.
Nope, not my intent. And for clarification, at what point does comparing the relative odds/effectiveness of various methods go from allowed "discussion" to "advocacy" — and thus edge against the "discussing the culture war, not waging it" rule? (Which is the rule which "fedposting" violates, yes?)
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
7mo ago
Which demographics is she pulling in 2024 that Biden DIDN'T pull in 2020? Make the case for me because I don't see any way she pulls better numbers than Biden.
A much larger portion of the cemetery demographic? The non-citizen demographic?
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
10mo ago
Given what happened in Pennsylvania, how well will the Secret Service be able (or should that be "willing"?) to protect Donald Trump if (when) he's sent to Rikers Island next month?
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
1yr ago
It would lay bare for the world to see the motive with zero excuse.
So what? What does it matter if people see "the motive with zero excuse"? Let them see, and get mad, and stew impotently in their anger, doing nothing about it because there's nothing they can do about it.
Get Trump to Florida and say Molon Labe
And when they do indeed "come and take him," drag him back to NY and lock him up?
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
1yr ago
If you weren't predicting five or six years ago that we'd have AI this capable
What "capable"? LLMs are a meaningless parlor trick — of little significance, and not any kind of step towards "general intelligence." "The whole field of chatbots" is a pointless distraction.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
7mo ago
It doesn't matter how "competent" they are, the Justice Department will simply ignore them, along with Gaetz, and keep on as they are now. None of Trump's appointments will have any actual power over the agencies, whose personnel will prove impossible to fire. The only way the "Deep State" is getting removed is in body bags:
FBI has to be removed permanently. They are dangerous. They have committed enormous crimes, which if unpunished, will be repeated sooner or later. They have to be eliminated, or we lose.
First step is Trump’s truth commission, and RFK Junior’s gold standard science (restoring the scientific method).
First we have to expose and prove the crimes. Then it becomes possible to do what is necessary to prevent repetition. Whether Trump is able and willing to do what is necessary remains to be seen. The judges that staffed the FISA court have to die. They are too dangerous to live.
If the FBI and the rest live, Trump, Musk, and any namefag so incautious as to have spoken the truth will die.
Musk knows what the time is. Does Trump?
Once elite cooperation collapses, then it is time to win or die.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
8mo ago
Thanks some more. So, I hope that this is enough so that, the next time /u/hydroacetylene tells me to "join a community org(lions club is always recruiting)," I can point him to all this and tell him to shove it.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
5mo ago
It can be undone in a matter of days
No, it can't. Not with legal mechanisms, anyway.
You can just do things.
No, you can't. Because you need people able and willing to carry things out. Only one side has that.
We can win.
No, we probably can't.
So are you going to fight?
No, I can't imagine people actually doing so. They'll do a lot of pointless stuff that feels like fighting — and winning — in the moment, but doesn't actually amount to anything. (See Yarvin here and here).
People are never going back.
Of course they are. They have every time before; if only because they'll be forced to.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
6mo ago
As the flow turns now
Except from what I can see, it isn't turning. The idea that "the woke is being put away" or that we're seeing "peak woke" is utter nonsense, pure wishful thinking. DEI is going to keep on being "the way to win" for the entire 21st century at least.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
6mo ago
This would bankrupt pretty much every non-ivy inside of a few years.
You say that like it's a bad thing
I want to burn down the system
Apparently you don't; or, at least we have very different ideas of what that means. My model for the minimum in dealing with Academia is Henry VIII's Dissolution of the Monasteries — complete with seizure of assets and the imprisonment or execution of resistant abbots and monks.
So... did it land? No I don't think so.
I've seen people argue that this isn't about trying to sway the voters, but laying the groundwork for after the election. For example, from a commenter over at Instapundit:
Trump will be arrested if he wins. The DNC and Deep State will not allow him to take office. They're laying the groundwork for public discourse now and are planning it internally. Harris would not be allowed to call him a fascist, and all the rhetoric from retired generals and "experts" all over the air waves.
I've seen similar arguments elsewhere. As a YouTube commenter once put it, Weimar Germany made the mistake of letting Hitler and the Nazis into the government just because they won elections, and we must never repeat that mistake ("Never again!"). This proves Trump wants to be Hitler — this time, for realsies, trust us! — and so, to defend Our Democracy and countless millions of American lives, we must stop him from returning to the White House, no matter what it takes.
The rules, the Constitution, prohibit this? It's time to get Schmittian — "sovereign is he who decides on the state of exception" — and "the Constitution is not a suicide pact." In this "state of exception," the 'rules' take a backseat to the very survival of our nation against Hitler 2.0. (And besides, the written Constitution hasn't described how our government is actually constituted and functions for at least a century — it's a dead letter.)
Of course, my primary theory is that all of this is for show, and "the fix is in," as they say. Get ready for eight years of Harris. To give some quotes from one of my favorite commenters (one "L") over at the Dread Jim's blog:
So, you rightoids ready to sit in the corner and watch while elite human capital takes home another election?
…
You have crucial states openly announcing that they won’t be reporting counts until several days afterwards and you honestly think you stand a chance? I knew rightoids were low IQ but even I’m surprised by ignorance of that level.
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Again, doesn’t matter if they exclusively counted votes while utterly shitfaced. You have no institutional means to stop them saying the total is whatever we want and no ability to use force. You’re done, simple as.
And my favorite in the thread:
It literally would not matter if there wasn’t a single genuine voter for Kamala in any of those states. The vote is whatever the people counting the vote say it is. Guess who those people are?
By the way, there’s not a single mechanism or institution that would ever support any kind of challenge to the results. Musk can say whatever he wants, in the short time he has before prison, and it doesn’t mean anything.
Edit: another proposed theory I'm seeing — this isn't about persuading voters, this is dogwhistling for the crazies to get the job done this time. From another Jim commenter:
Surrounded by a crowd of mystery meats, roasties, some pale cucklords who look vegan, and one hoary and hoarse Obongo, she once again attempts to meme Trump into being Hitler (who himself endured lots of assassination attempts, as many people remember), and pretty much begs — she might as well go down on her knees, as she is used to — everyone to just kill that cracker. There’s very little nuance here. It’s open season from now on until Order is Restored.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
8mo ago
Objectively false. Concluding this from a quick look at a small section of some of the most traditional and elitist clubs is a bad idea.
Okay, so amend it to "no club worth joining" then. The original context that prompted me to ask this was /u/hydroacetylene saying to me "[i]f you want socially conservative institutions and communities, go and join them," and to "join a community org(lions club is always recruiting)"
So, the point is finding "a community org" within the class of "socially conservative institutions and communities" that's accessible to a poor, disabled, far-right atheist like me… in Anchorage.
Providence Alaska Medical Center in Anchorage has a "No One Dies Alone" program.
From the hospital's volunteer page's list of requirements:
• Commit to volunteering for at least six months, fulfilling an assigned two- to four-hour shift each week
• Serve a minimum of 100 hours
This seems like exactly the sort of regular, scheduled volunteer work that gets Social Security deciding you can hold down a job and aren't really disabled.
just go help out at a food bank.
Our food bank hasn't been doing so well lately with regards to supplies, and from what I've seen, has been scaling back their operations. I say this as someone who, until recent schedule changes, was a frequent recipient of their help.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
8mo ago
In general, good advice.
In general, but not for me. I asked this question elsewhere, and the answers I got were more invite-only organizations, most of which bar atheists.
Basically, it's what I already know — I'm just subhuman scum, Lebensunwertes Leben, and no club would ever want me as a member.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
8mo ago
an abandoned constituency in the native proletariat victimized by globalization and the SJ conflicts boiling over into larger culture created a broad class of young energetic reactionary activists that were also looking for a champion.
Or to sum it up in a word, fascists.
populism and anti-SJ sentiment.
In other words, the "socially conservative but fiscally liberal" quadrant opposite the sparsely-populated "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" libertarian quadrant on the "social axis vs. economic axis" political plane, which — as people I've encountered from all four quadrants of that plane argue — is best labelled the fascist quadrant.
The coalitions had already been drawn out with the failure of Occupy I would argue.
As a left-winger once argued to me, Occupy had to fail like it did, no matter how lamentable that outcome, because the alternative was platforming fascists.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
1yr ago
and not just a handful of columnists.
I'm talking about people I know personally, fellow Alaskans, who acted similarly in the Ted Stevens case — including one person who argues that if you vote for "a convicted felon" God will literally damn you to hell for it.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
1yr ago
There will be nothing more destabilizing for democracy and American government than making every president a Caesar who either crosses the Rubicon or dies in jail.
Why would a Democrat president need to worry about "dying in jail" under his Democrat successor? And you won't have to worry about a Republican president becoming a Caesar to avoid that fate when there's never going to be another Republican president.
Permanent Dem rule is here. There is no lawful, nor even non-violent, path left for Red Tribe. And I've expressed my doubts about the effectiveness of violent measures, so, once again, I conclude we're doomed.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
1yr ago
What do you wish Trump et al could accomplish between 2024 and 2028? Is it mainly restricting low-skill immigration?
I'm a monarchist, awaiting an Augustus Caesar — while almost certain we'll never get one.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
5mo ago
Meditate on the mundane truthfulness and wisdom of corny motivational poster bromides that you have to get busy living.
Or get busy dying.
The point of starting something else is that the alternative is continuing on the current path which demonstrated by your post clearly isn't satisfying, so even if the something else isn't satisfying either at least it's novel.
Or there's the third alternative: ending it all.
Violence. Grabbing your buddies and your guns, forming a RWDS and shooting every Blue Triber you find.
Would it work? Almost certainly not, but its odds of success, however small, are still better than those of "voting harder" — which are effectively zero.
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