I'm curious about not just what your favorite post is, but also what you think is the GOAT, or perhaps what you think is most illustrative and representative of this space (e.g. what would you show someone to get them intrigued). Please limit your post to only ONE pick and briefly explain why you chose it. This can be from anywhere within the Motte's history thus far, and r/TheThread is a good place to check in case you're having trouble finding something. Asking for a friend.
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Notes -
I don't remember much in the way of butting heads. I do remember a few brief conversations in particular that provided two extremely valuable insights: the futility of pursuing the exterior form of Conservative ends from a frame of fundamentally progressive values, and the difference between Conservative and Progressive concepts of victory, of The Good Life, and how the former necessarily demands the capacity to accept loss. Both took a while to sink in properly, but they had a huge impact on my understanding of both my own thinking and the world I see around me. I participate here because I have questions and want answers. I got a number of really good questions from reading Scott. The best answers I've gotten came from you. To the extent that my contributions here don't reflect that, it's a lamentable failure on my part.
The sequence leading to this was memorable, though I can understand framing it as disagreement and exploration over butting heads.
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